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Old 02-23-2009, 11:57 PM   #76
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Yeah, I thought that. Played 6max for ages, just switching back to FR. Any other advice?
So how are the color coding ranges working out for you?
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Old 03-09-2009, 11:55 AM   #77
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i agree about looking at multiple stats to make correct decsions (or more correct). however, i have a very simple layout so i kno exactly where every stat is



i also hate too much clutter, and wud never want more than 7 things up (4 are already taken, VPIP/PFR/AF/HANDS). and because at 50FR i feel like i can autopilot, i havnt bothered with the new stats. but, if we can come up with some solid breakdowns...ill try em out for a few seshs and see if i can start adjusting
The image looks like a FTP table,
how do you make those stats come out for each player?
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Old 03-16-2009, 10:12 PM   #78
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The image looks like a FTP table,
how do you make those stats come out for each player?
this is using PAHUD+PT2

current programs (HEM and PT3) have HUD's built into them that don't use this type of layout system.
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:55 PM   #79
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I like to keep things simple. I use the stop-light approach (Red - Yellow - Green).

Red - Stop! (Player has good numbers for this particular stat)
Yellow - Slow down! (Player has average numbers for this stat - really think about action on each street)
Green - GoGoGo! (Player has poor numbers for this stat)

I've tried breaking things up into more categories but then it just gets too nitty and confusing. Seeing a table full of red and yellow means go find a new table.

Also, for those that don't like to have a cluttered screen, you can still color-coordinate ALL the stats and include them in the pop-up.
I agree with the tricolor breakdown - its much easier to break down stats by fishiness or dangerousness rather than loose/aggressive. This is because a very loose player in one context is more dangerous or should be avoided more often (i.e. don't steal the BB of a 60/10 with a 20% FtoCbet, even though that is super exploitable if you have a value hand)

I use:

1. Red: Very TAG or Rocky stats (e.g. PFR < 5; VPIP <10)
2. Yellow: More Laggy stat (e.g. PFR <14, VPIP <20)
3. Light Green: kinda fishy
4. Dark Green: Mega Fishy.

Right now I have my lines:

VPIP/PFR/3bet%
Agg%/AF/Flop CB/TurnCB
F to Flop CB/ Flop Checkraise/ F to Turn CB / Turn check raise/ River AF
WTSD/W$SD/W$WSF/WR/Hands

I'm having a very hard time with the middle lines - what to include in postflop statistics basically - and think I might be missing something on the PF stats.

What are your lines? Any ideas?
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Old 03-30-2009, 08:34 PM   #80
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Re: PAHUD Stat breakdown by color...

What do you guys think is a fishy vs. a Taggy AGG % at the micros?
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Old 03-30-2009, 08:36 PM   #81
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Re: PAHUD Stat breakdown by color...

PAHUD?
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Old 03-30-2009, 08:51 PM   #82
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Any Head's Up Display (e.g. I use HEM's)
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PAHUD?
PAHUD is what us dinosaurs used before PT3 and HEM =)
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Re: PAHUD Stat breakdown by color...

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I've started adding fold to CB for every street - looking at fold to river Cbet can actually give you a great idea about how weak tight any particular player is or how often they chase draws.

I'm also experimenting with check raise % but I'm not sure what the optimal # so I'm having a hard time making that stat meaningful
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I've started adding fold to CB for every street - looking at fold to river Cbet can actually give you a great idea about how weak tight any particular player is or how often they chase draws.

I'm also experimenting with check raise % but I'm not sure what the optimal # so I'm having a hard time making that stat meaningful
the CB stat is going to need a huge sample for the river and even the turn. i wud keep this in mind, though your thoughts on how to use it seem to be pretty right on
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the CB stat is going to need a huge sample for the river and even the turn. i wud keep this in mind, though your thoughts on how to use it seem to be pretty right on
So do you focus more on just the flop stats? Most hands end by then and even if they don't the turn and river should be easier to play if you make the correct flop decision and have other general stats like AF I guess. What post-flop stats would you recommend that give "bang for your buck" if you play with unknowns 90% of the time?
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Re: PAHUD Stat breakdown by color...

almost all my stats are PF/FLOP based. i use my notes past there and also their WTSD. also take notes on what kind of hands they go to SD with...that helps a TON
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almost all my stats are PF/FLOP based. i use my notes past there and also their WTSD. also take notes on what kind of hands they go to SD with...that helps a TON
Do you just use Cbet/Fold to Cbet or also fold to donk, C/R and other tricky stats?
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Re: PAHUD Stat breakdown by color...

my HUD:

HANDS
vpip/pfr
ATS/WTSD/3b
flopCB/fold2CB

thats all the info i need to make decisions. i cud use an extra one or 2 in very special spots...but i take a lot of notes and pay a lot of attention (even when 20 tabling) to balance it
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How do you use WTSD and what ranges do you give for it? It's a stat I never used.
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