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03-22-2010 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
heh, I wish it was sagacity.

Unfortunately, stry was not talking about cars. I'm the "Lexus driver." His problem with me is that I apparently failed to reply to an e-mail he sent me a long time ago. He sent me a nasty (well, more sarcastic than nasty) e-mail contemporaneously with his post.

So it wasn't sagacity, but, rather, it was just me knowing that I occasionally forget to reply to an occasional e-mail due to the high volume of them I receive. I certainly don't consider myself a "Lexus driver." I consider myself as someone who rides the (short ) bus because he's too busto to even own a car.
I think you should offer to give his money back for the uNL site. Most mods do a good job and all on a volunteer basis. Don't know why one would hate a mod.

Except for Kurt, he is an evil bastard.
03-22-2010 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
Except for Kurt, he is an evil bastard.
2p2 is carrying out its own version of the Stanford prison experiment by giving me a badge and baton. Early results are not looking good.
03-22-2010 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by thejuggernaut
I want to know how the guy in ssnl got to 2000 posts while flaming mods.

You're too patient.

lol @ his replies too. Basically, I can't beat NL200, so no one can.
He said nothing that was out of line. Everything he said was an opinion, perhaps an aggressive one...but i think a lot of people on here get too defensive about posts.

Mpethy is a grown man, capable of speaking for himself...i think he also realizes that when you give trip reports about how your shots are going, some people are going to grumble.

Mods should not be held as some beings above our scrutiny.

I think Mpethy has handled the situation perfectly
03-22-2010 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by springsteen87
Mods should not be held as some beings above our scrutiny.
I guarantee if I post nipples ITT I will get infracted.
03-22-2010 , 04:28 PM
First my company doesn't give us MLK day off. Now no day off for Easter? They hate African Americans and Baby Jesus!!!!!
03-22-2010 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Equus asinus
First my company doesn't give us MLK day off. Now no day off for Easter? They hate African Americans and Baby Jesus!!!!!
Coming up in Berkeley CA (find "your mom is so Berkeley" on facebook) we got lots of days off. Not only MLK Day, but we also had no school on Malcolm X Day, International Women's Day, and Indigenous People's Day (which incidentally fell on Columbus Day).
03-22-2010 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Coming up in Berkeley CA (find "your mom is so Berkeley" on facebook) we got lots of days off. Not only MLK Day, but we also had no school on Malcolm X Day, International Women's Day, and Indigenous People's Day (which incidentally fell on Columbus Day).
LOL... maybe I'm in the wrong type of place.

I will never forget the day I had my bicycle in my office (it is ~1k and I don't like leaving it outside even locked). An executive came by and started telling me I couldn't do that. "We aren't one of those employee friendly companies like Google you know." Real quote, not an exaggeration.
03-22-2010 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Equus asinus
LOL... maybe I'm in the wrong type of place.

I will never forget the day I had my bicycle in my office (it is ~1k and I don't like leaving it outside even locked). An executive came by and started telling me I couldn't do that. "We aren't one of those employee friendly companies like Google you know." Real quote, not an exaggeration.
Haha, nice too see there is at least one big a** hole in every office, regardless where on the world it is
03-22-2010 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
Except for Kurt, he is an evil bastard.
+100

Pink hair is the sign of the devil, for sure.
03-22-2010 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
I guarantee if I post nipples ITT I will get infracted.
prove it........
03-22-2010 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
Truthfully, I have no idea. My propensity for tilting and breaking computers means that my current db extends back only to November '09.
Really? I never would have guessed this from your forums demeanor, LOL. My throat is still sore from screaming about poker this weekend. While I kick my chair and punch things, I have never broken a mouse, much less a computer.


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PTR has me at 1.54 ptbb/100 in 234k hands for what that's worth. I have way more hands than that at $50, so, <shrug>. Whatever it is, it's not great.

1.5 ptbb/100 seems a bit low to me. I mean, I suck bad so if 1.5 ptbb/100 is the big Oh for my WR that is depressing.

Currently I'm about 2.3 ptbb/100 over 40k hands (small sample) for Rush but I think a really good player would have ecked out at least 1 more ptbb/100 than me (I am such a payoff wizard).

Also, how did you decide to move up? Given your computer/db disavowal of WR knowledge, what was your criteria?
03-22-2010 , 05:02 PM
Oh, and on the mpethy is bad subject.

One danger of using one overall number is that it doesn't take into account changes in the player. If someone started out as a -3ptBB for 3 months, then improved to +5ptBB the next 3 months, their average stat is +1ptBB. Doesn't mean they are 1ptBB/100 player now.

Why I warn people about obsessing about WR.
03-22-2010 , 05:03 PM
my last 25k hands could be the poster child for small sample size. I use to think 25K hands was enough to get an decent idea, even if its is not converge, but now, no way.
03-22-2010 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by funkyj
Really? I never would have guessed this from your forums demeanor, LOL. My throat is still sore from screaming about poker this weekend. While I kick my chair and punch things, I have never broken a mouse, much less a computer.
Yeah, really. It is actually more accurate to say that I broke three computers 5 times, but w/e. This is the main reason I stopped playing on a lap top; it was too easy for me to throw it across the room or snap it over my knee, or smash my fist down on it, snapping the mother board in half. Those incidents and two screen replacements are the sum total of my computer abuse.

(Don't try snapping a computer over your knee, by the way; it is possible, but hurts like a mother ****er, and I limped for a week after that stunt.)

I have a pretty bad temper that 99.9% of the time I keep under very tight wraps. Nothing on the forum can really set me off to the point that I lose my temper.





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Originally Posted by funkyj
1.5 ptbb/100 seems a bit low to me. I mean, I suck bad so if 1.5 ptbb/100 is the big Oh for my WR that is depressing.

Currently I'm about 2.3 ptbb/100 over 40k hands (small sample) for Rush but I think a really good player would have ecked out at least 1 more ptbb/100 than me (I am such a payoff wizard).
Yeah, 1.5ptbb/100 at $50 is nothing to brag about. I don't really want to be seen to be making excuses, so I am not sure how much I can say here to respond. Suffice to say that my win rate, whatever it is, is comprised of the average of a lot of periods where I beat my game at a decent clip, interspersed with long break even stretches.

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Originally Posted by funkyj
Also, how did you decide to move up? Given your computer/db disavowal of WR knowledge, what was your criteria?
Basically, I move up when I think I have an edge at the game I am playing. I've been wrong a lot of times. I'm sure I'll be wrong many more.

But the issue is more complicated than that, really. One factor is that I have played most of my hands playing 14-16 tables. As it turns out, I am REALLY BAD at playing that many tables. 10 seems to be my functional limit. Realizing (admitting?) that has been the biggest improvement in my hourly I have been able to make. The second biggest has been acknowledging and attempting to control my winner's tilt.

So, basically, if I had to sum up, it would be this: When I play my A game, I have an edge. But because I am a chuckle head, I have played maybe 25% of my hands in the last two years while playing my A game.
03-22-2010 , 05:43 PM
I think I have some serious winner's tilt issues. I haven't won much more than 2bi in a single session in months.
03-22-2010 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
I think I have some serious winner's tilt issues. I haven't won much more than 2bi in a single session in months.
I deal with winners tilt. After I get up, I actually sit out of few hands, do a yoga pose (shut up, it works for me), then make sure I clamp down like I do when I am behind.
03-22-2010 , 06:19 PM
sup guys!

I'm so not up to date and gonna have an insane amount to read up on, but geez I missed this place!




edit: lol avatar's still on Christmas holidays I see
03-22-2010 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
I think I have some serious winner's tilt issues. I haven't won much more than 2bi in a single session in months.
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
I deal with winners tilt. After I get up, I actually sit out of few hands, do a yoga pose (shut up, it works for me), then make sure I clamp down like I do when I am behind.
Yoga is good stuff but pretty much any exercise that will focus you on the present will do.

A few days ago I won 3BI in 40 minutes and promptly quit because I was afraid of winner's tilt and the "FU, now I'm only up 1.5 BI" tilt issues I have.

I listened to Tommy Angelo's 8-fold path but I have a ton of work to do before I can get reduce my attachment to short term results.

For me to have a more than +3BI session I'm going to have to not know/care that I'm up or down.

Kurt, you said you are playing for a living now. Mostly online or a mix of online and live?

TANGENT: RPM poker, Licenced by Kahnawake Gaming commision, banner add. Might as well say "licensed by Russ Hamilton and NioNio".
03-22-2010 , 06:43 PM
oh wow, Kurt is green
03-22-2010 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by funkyj
Kurt, you said you are playing for a living now. Mostly online or a mix of online and live?
In terms of time, probably about 2/3 online and 1/3 live. In terms of earn, probably about 90% online.

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Originally Posted by kflip
oh wow, Kurt is green
Welcome back!
03-22-2010 , 06:49 PM
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Yeah, 1.5ptbb/100 at $50 is nothing to brag about. I don't really want to be seen to be making excuses, so I am not sure how much I can say here to respond. Suffice to say that my win rate, whatever it is, is comprised of the average of a lot of periods where I beat my game at a decent clip, interspersed with long break even stretches.
I'm not trying to tear you down. My working assumption is there is a good chance I will never bet a better poker player than you are now. Perhaps we might tone that down and say "it is highly unlikely I will be more skilled at poker in the next 2 years than mpethy is now". If we take these assumptions as fact, your long term W/R has grim implications for me (i.e. 2.3 ptbb/100 is just a heater and I'm in for a lot more anguish).

It is possible that my mental game skills could greatly exceed your current mental game and I could surpass you by saying in my A-game (and even B-game) zone a lot more but I'm sure I have a long road before my betting patterns skill is anywhere close to what your is now (I'm really lazy about doing session reviews, DB reviews et cetera).

So, perhaps there is hope that somebody who's A-game is far weaker than yours could none the less turn a 3ptbb/100 WR over a long sample at the fiddy by being (relatively) tiltless.
03-22-2010 , 06:56 PM
funky, comparing your results to other players' is a useless and futile exercise.

Work on your game.
03-22-2010 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by funkyj
I'm not trying to tear you down. My working assumption is there is a good chance I will never bet a better poker player than you are now. Perhaps we might tone that down and say "it is highly unlikely I will be more skilled at poker in the next 2 years than mpethy is now". If we take these assumptions as fact, your long term W/R has grim implications for me (i.e. 2.3 ptbb/100 is just a heater and I'm in for a lot more anguish).

It is possible that my mental game skills could greatly exceed your current mental game and I could surpass you by saying in my A-game (and even B-game) zone a lot more but I'm sure I have a long road before my betting patterns skill is anywhere close to what your is now (I'm really lazy about doing session reviews, DB reviews et cetera).

So, perhaps there is hope that somebody who's A-game is far weaker than yours could none the less turn a 3ptbb/100 WR over a long sample at the fiddy by being (relatively) tiltless.
Don't underrate the mental game skills. These are important, and are a significant contributor to success, or, in my case, mediocrity.

Don't underestimate the importance of knowing your limits. I played way too many tables for too long.

Also, what Kurt said.
03-22-2010 , 07:14 PM
kflip, it is very good to see you back, sir.
03-22-2010 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Welcome back!
ty!
Scrolling through the FTP regs thread just for the pictures was totally worth it already

So apart from you "turning" green (graz!), did anything significant happen, e.g. you can't type "****" any more, bc some dude over in BBV4L insulted someone?

      
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