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06-08-2009 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Green_29
There are my first 15K hands at NL10. Still early days, just looking for a few pointers so that I can maintain, or increase, this winrate. This is all 12 tabling on stars.

Stats and position stats -





One thing Im concerned about here is my fold to flop c-bet%, its ~70%. Obviously people dont hit the flop 70% of the time, so I must just be folding when to flop c-bets everytime I miss and my opponent bets. What fold to flop c-bet% should I be looking to get?

And graph with non-showdown winnings -



My winrate for non-showdown hands is -4.8BB/100. Am I right in saying that this is ok for NL10?
Most everything looks spot on. I dont have any advice other then then usual for the fold to flop cbet%. Look for spots to get aggressive and that your opponent likely missed. This comes with experience. This will also of course increase your non showdown winnings. I expect that your non showdown winnings are due to the level of play at your level and the likely fact that nobody will fold a pair. Given this I think your non-SD winnings looks good. You redline is most likely not plummeting due to your exceptional blind play.
Suggestions:
Just a few.
I would look for spots to increase my 3 bet %. You will need it a little higher when you move up I expect.
Also increase your ATS% to prepare for $25nl. A ATS% > 30% at $25nl will be highly profitable. Look for more spots to take advantage of the weak tight players.

everything else looks fine to me. However, dont be discouraged if your winrate goes down. This will likely be hard to maintain in this day and age. It is definatly not impossible but I am preparing you for the future. It takes awhile for your true WR to even out and this is way to few hands to evaluate a WR. Keep up the good work and keep studying the game and working on improving no matter whether you are crushing the game or not because you can never know enough about the beast that is NL holdem.
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06-09-2009 , 01:46 PM
Am I pissing out of the blinds?

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06-09-2009 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fr1234
Am I pissing out of the blinds?

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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
Check your blind loss rates. You are almost certainly leaking in the blinds. If your loss rates are -24bb/100 in the SB and -40bb in the BB, or any combination that adds up to more than -64bb, you are leaking.

If your loss rates are less than this you have massive postflop leaks.
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06-09-2009 , 03:47 PM
So I could be doing worse? Sexy! Cheers for the post and pointing me to mpethy's
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06-11-2009 , 06:51 AM
Hi,

what's a "good" "SB/BB fold to steal" %?

I used to defend with 99+,AT+,KQ (8.7% of hands) from LP raise but strangely I had a "BB/SB fold t steal way lower" than 90%..I don't know why, do u have any idea?

Last edited by Xail; 06-11-2009 at 07:00 AM.
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06-11-2009 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Xail
Hi,

what's a "good" "SB/BB fold to steal" %?

I used to defend with 99+,AT+,KQ (8.7% of hands) from LP raise but strangely I had a "BB/SB fold t steal way lower" than 90%..I don't know why, do u have any idea?
I look at villains steal %, but you need to have good number of hands played with him.

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Just an idea: my steal % would depend more on villains willingness to fold to steal than my own hand.
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06-11-2009 , 10:20 AM
Awesome thread. Thank you.
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06-11-2009 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jautukas87
I look at villains steal %, but you need to have good number of hands played with him.

EDIT:

Just an idea: my steal % would depend more on villains willingness to fold to steal than my own hand.
Ok....WITHOUT a good number of hands played with him what's a "good" "SB/BB fold to steal" %?
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06-11-2009 , 02:05 PM
The numbers are generally high enough that I doubt they are very significant and vary quite a bit from player to player. The blind play is very tricky and dependent on villian. If villain has been stealing a lot lately then look for spots to resteal. Mainly just need to read up on how to play in the blinds and not worry about that stat. I think they are pretty unreliable IMO until you have a ton of hands and then it is still hard to evaluate based purely on that. Read up on blind play and dont worry about that stat.
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06-11-2009 , 02:28 PM
I worry about the stats...this is a the "Official Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread " afterall...
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06-11-2009 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Xail
I worry about the stats...this is a the "Official Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread " afterall...
I was just saying that the stat is not very useful to evaluate IMO and there is no clear defined acceptable range since different ranges will be effective for different players and different styles of play. Just my 2 cents.
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06-12-2009 , 05:50 AM
Even if poker is situational I think a concrete discussion is possible....

Don't u have a defaulf range to defend your blinds?
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06-12-2009 , 07:29 AM
Self evaluation after 10k hands.


Can't say much here, can't get the curve going up.




13.5/6.6 are too far apart and last 1k hands I'm running 12.2/7.2




Should I tighten up in early position(and raise only)? EP graph is going up and then down, might be cause I started raising with small/medium pp(didn't pay of yet). vinnie2k said if bb/100 from blinds is worse than -64 it is leaking, mine add up to ~-67. I'll have to read up on playing from blinds.





When there are 2+ limpers I should either limp as well or raise(more, much more(6bb+limpers??)). Also should tighten up against a raise.




This is big, I play one pair too far.




More detailed view of 'pair at showdown'. Don't ask about high card . Should throw out small pp at flop. Should play TPTK cautiously vs nits.





Please comment, any comments highly appreciated.
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06-12-2009 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Xail
Even if poker is situational I think a concrete discussion is possible....

Don't u have a defaulf range to defend your blinds?
As you can see my VPIP
sb 22.7
bb 10.1

By default we're loosing from blinds so I should probably tighten up from sb.

I'm more concentrating to stealing than to defending. My range varies depending on raiser mostly.
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06-12-2009 , 08:22 AM
Hey I'd just like to get any feedback on my stats from the last month. I posted my stats a while back when I was on Full Tilt and I was told I needed to lower my ATS% and my aggression. I'm down 14 buyins over the last 12K hands and I feel like ****

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6051/ubstats01.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9674/ubstats02.jp

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/98/ubstats03.jpg
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06-12-2009 , 08:33 AM
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06-12-2009 , 09:25 AM
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06-12-2009 , 09:57 AM
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Hey I'd just like to get any feedback on my stats from the last month. I posted my stats a while back when I was on Full Tilt and I was told I needed to lower my ATS% and my aggression. I'm down 14 buyins over the last 12K hands and I feel like ****

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6051/ubstats01.jpg

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06-12-2009 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Xail
Even if poker is situational I think a concrete discussion is possible....

Don't u have a defaulf range to defend your blinds?
This is what I am saying. Blind play can be so diffrent that there is no concrete standard like what to raise from EP or MP or how loose to iso a limper. The only default hand range I really have is my EP range which is super tight. However I make my raises and flat calls based on the action, stack sizes, and opponents that raise. I also raise a huge range when there is a LP limper. All this stuff is discussed in the blind play strategy threads.
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06-12-2009 , 09:02 PM
This is all Pot Limit FR, I don't know whats going on with my winnings by position, but I suck playing from the CO......









any feedback appreciated.


Thanks
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06-12-2009 , 09:36 PM
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This is all Pot Limit FR, I don't know whats going on with my winnings by position, but I suck playing from the CO......









any feedback appreciated.


Thanks
I'm no expert at reading PT stats but this all looks very good. How's your red line with the blinds removed?
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06-13-2009 , 04:12 AM
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'm no expert at reading PT stats but this all looks very good. How's your red line with the blinds removed?
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06-13-2009 , 07:24 PM
It's my first post so go easy on me. I've played around 100k hands of fr 25nl on stars over the last few months, and apparently i'm quite the donk. I decided to take a break and evaluate some stats. In the meantime, i've dropped down to 10nl to really nail my fundamentals down. I thought i'd post my graph and stats to see if im missing any obvious leaks. I would be extremely grateful for any tips you guys have.

I lost the hh of about 35k hands including a +12 bi night so it looks slightly worse than it actually was. Also, i reached platinum on stars last month so with bonus I'm probably in the green but i'm not sure.

http://yfrog.com/5i25nlgraphpx
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06-13-2009 , 10:43 PM
Is there a leak when someone WTSD like 23% and W$SD only like 48%? Or is that just a hot cold thing? I mean it seems that when WTSD goes down, W$SD should go up and vice versa.
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06-14-2009 , 04:00 AM
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It's my first post so go easy on me. I've played around 100k hands of fr 25nl on stars over the last few months, and apparently i'm quite the donk. I decided to take a break and evaluate some stats. In the meantime, i've dropped down to 10nl to really nail my fundamentals down. I thought i'd post my graph and stats to see if im missing any obvious leaks. I would be extremely grateful for any tips you guys have.

I lost the hh of about 35k hands including a +12 bi night so it looks slightly worse than it actually was. Also, i reached platinum on stars last month so with bonus I'm probably in the green but i'm not sure.

http://yfrog.com/5i25nlgraphpx

You're playing way too many hands from the SB, remember you're OOP there, so stop completing with trash just b/c is cheap.

You could open up your BU and CO range as well, what's your Attempt to steall?

I see you're limp calling from UTG quite a lot too. I'd recommend tightening up your UTG range and never open limping.
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