Originally Posted by jbrown8777
Anyone tell me why I'm losing so much without sd? I know i have alot of leaks maybe you guys can point some out. I got PT 3 around hand 18500 and I've been working on not giving up on the flop quite so much since then.
I think people worry way too much about these graphs. The important point is you're winning.
I read something that Doyle Brunson once wrote (and silly me, I didn't save it so I have never been able to find it again) along the lines that he will call all-ins, even when he knows he is behind (and as long as he has some outs) because that is the price that he has to pay to make his aggressive style profitable. People know that if they tangle with him they are playing for stacks. So people fold to most of his aggressive bets before showdown.
Thus, if we could see Doyle Brunson's EV chart I'd expect to see a negative 'won on showdown' but a great 'total won'.
So what will a set-mining chart look like? Well (roughly speaking) seven or eight times out of nine you'll put money in the pot but drop out if you miss and your c-bet doesn't work. There's no showdown and you've lost money. But when you do hit, you want to play for stacks and get that sucker to showdown!
So for a set miner I'd expect to see a negative 'won without showdown' but a great 'total won'.
The point I am trying to make is, there is no rule that says that both the 'won on showdown' and the 'won without showdown' lines must be postive, otherwise you suck and have a massive leak.
You're making money. Be happy. Don't screw up your game just to get a pretty graph.