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03-05-2009 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyro12345
Just someone post if they have plz even a 5+ ptbb winrate at 25 or 50 nl over 100k+.


C'mon all these sharks and no one has this wr?
7.9ptbb/100 lifetime at NL25...
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03-05-2009 , 02:52 PM
Thanks you two.

I vi ii V7 - I'm also not that great with stats but I figured my loss rate in the blinds was a little large. My not playing tricky enough comment was ore aimed at my red line. I think you're right though. I may have a habit of stacking of a little light to bad players.

Teddy - Raise flop CBet = 12% (I have a habit of floating any flops which I think my opponent missed rather than raising, leak?)
CBet Turn = 47%
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03-05-2009 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
I'd like to see a graph of your winnings, showing showdown and non showdown losses, with and without the blinds.

to get your AF down, you simply bet a bit less and call a bit more. You need to be smart about it, which is to say that you should sometimes slow play big hands, sometimes check to induce a bluff, sometimes float a c-bet. but basically keep the fundamental idea that we bet when we have a good hand and fold when we don't, which clearly you get and are, if anything over-employing.

Really, though, I think your big leaks are in the bet lines you take and the frequency with which you take them, and you should get some coaching or a very thorough DB review or both.
Sweet I'll post those tomorrow
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03-05-2009 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi Speed Racer
what stats are you reffering to?
I'll post them along with my analysis of them, and some comments.
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03-05-2009 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Winawer
Yeah, I can see that. I've been trying to bring my VPIP down and my PFR up - I don't limp with a lot of hands (except pocket pairs 55 and down), but I tend to limp a lot more when I've taken a big losses; I know it's the wrong thing to do, but I'm having to fight with myself.

Re: position, I'll have to look at that, because I thought I was doing okay there. I know that stats aren't everything, but if I were playing better positionally (all else being the same), what would my position stats look like?

Thanks a lot for your response!
I wouldn't limp with PP 55 or below. Raise them or fold them, unless there's a good reason for you not too. Limping can get you in multi way pots which are generally trouble. I'd fold 99- from UTG, UTG+1 and UTG+2 for example, but I'm raising 22+ from HJ/CO/BTN.

Position: I think your VPIP from BTN can be as high as 35 whereas your UTG should be around 3... But more experienced posters will be able to help you a lot more.
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03-05-2009 , 06:42 PM
can i post 6 max stats or is this strictly FR?
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03-05-2009 , 06:55 PM
Hey guyz,

Since mid january, I started to focus more on online poker, but I'm getting hard time to beat the game.

Thanks to those stats, can someone tell me what's wrong and how to be better? I know I'm up but I'm sure I can be much much better.

Thanks to everyone who gives advices.



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03-05-2009 , 08:37 PM
Here's my stats so far at online NL. From reading through what I can of this thread, it seems I need to tighten up in MP, raise more preflop, and find some more aggression on the river? I tend to check on the river a lot, I don't feel that I can call a raise and so don't want to bet. I've mostly played limit before, and value betting on the river is easy there, because it only costs you 1 more bet, but here, I'm never sure what is a good value bet.


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03-05-2009 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jmark
Here's my stats so far at online NL. From reading through what I can of this thread, it seems I need to tighten up in MP, raise more preflop, and find some more aggression on the river? I tend to check on the river a lot, I don't feel that I can call a raise and so don't want to bet. I've mostly played limit before, and value betting on the river is easy there, because it only costs you 1 more bet, but here, I'm never sure what is a good value bet.

First of all, your sample size is too small to get a lot of information from. At first blush you should be working on your positional awareness. Raising more preflop would be good, but try to figure out why your raising as well. That is more important than just outright aggression. Work on your game and your stats will fall into place.
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03-05-2009 , 09:33 PM
Uhhh noob question but is there a difference between bb/100 and bbpt/100
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03-05-2009 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsRainingMen
can i post 6 max stats or is this strictly FR?
Better off asking the guys who play 6max. I'm not sure if they have a stats thread, maybe ask in the Chat thread?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...-stakes-pl-nl/

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Originally Posted by urbansprawler
Uhhh noob question but is there a difference between bb/100 and bbpt/100

Yes, 1ptbb = 2BB
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03-06-2009 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DDNK
Np. Well, slightly different stats since I've put more hands in, but winrates for position are:

SB -4.17
BB -17.9
EP 9.9
MP 13.53
CO 9.02
BTN 13.86

Overall is 5.77 with 23K hands. I'm running about 2BB/100 under EV in the BB right now, and 4 above in the SB.
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
The only other thing I can see without your win rates is that your W$WSF at 34% is significantly on the low side. Read post 489 to see if you are playing your blinds aggressively enough. If that sounds like you, then, in non-blind hands, you are giving up on too many pots. You really should be winning at least 37% W$WSF, and 40% is doable for solid TAgs.

Your VPIP?PFR are a bit too far apart, but it seems to be working for you, so I am not that concerned. But it may be related to your low W$WSF; if you are calling IP and then giving up when you miss the flop, this will drag down your W$WSF. You have to make an occasional play IP when you smell weakness from the pre flop raiser.
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03-06-2009 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by groove1984
Thanks you two.

I vi ii V7 - I'm also not that great with stats but I figured my loss rate in the blinds was a little large. My not playing tricky enough comment was ore aimed at my red line. I think you're right though. I may have a habit of stacking of a little light to bad players.

Teddy - Raise flop CBet = 12% (I have a habit of floating any flops which I think my opponent missed rather than raising, leak?)
CBet Turn = 47%


Your stats are pretty much the exact same as mine nearly. The difference I've notice is I'm 15.2/13.2/3.66 my Went to SD is 25.5, my W$WSF is 43.2. Steal % is 39, c-bets % is 79 and raise flop c-bet is 10%. My loss rate froms the SB is -16ptbb/100 and 21ptbb/100 from the big blind so it's not your blind play. The best thing is to filter hands that didnt go to showdown and then see what hands you lost the most with and maybe post them in the forum if your not sure you played them correctly.
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03-06-2009 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DDNK
Np. Well, slightly different stats since I've put more hands in, but winrates for position are:

SB -4.17
BB -17.9
EP 9.9
MP 13.53
CO 9.02
BTN 13.86

Overall is 5.77 with 23K hands. I'm running about 2BB/100 under EV in the BB right now, and 4 above in the SB.
sorry, missed them. Your loss rates in the blinds are good if these are big blinds; if they are poker tracker big bets, you are leaking from the BB.

If these are big blinds, your win rate in EP is a bit on the low side, but basically ok, but your win rates in the CO and the button are too low. If these are poker tracker big bets, your CO win rate is a little low, but everything else looks ok.

My guess is that you are leaking some in late position by calling/limping behind with too many hands. Run some filters and see if this is the case. It explains your win rates being low if you posted big blinds/100 not ptbb/100, and it would explain your low W$WSF.
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03-06-2009 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by groove1984
So I'm pretty confident I can beat NL25 for a decent 4+ptbb/100 clip. Yet NL50 just kicks my arse. I take it I'm bleeding from the blinds and not playing tricky enough?

Your red line is pretty much a result of your blind losses, yeah. you are at -.36ptbb/orbit in the blinds, which is a leak. work on getting this down to below -.36.

the other problem I have with your stats is that you do not vary your cold calling range by position--it stays at 2% in pretty much every position. You are passing up profitable situations.
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03-06-2009 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MaKsOZ
Hey guyz,

Since mid january, I started to focus more on online poker, but I'm getting hard time to beat the game.

Thanks to those stats, can someone tell me what's wrong and how to be better? I know I'm up but I'm sure I can be much much better.

Thanks to everyone who gives advices.



Your blind loss rates are excellent; you have no problem there.

Your stats look fine, but your win rates are too low in your non-blind positions. In looking at your starting hand win rates, all of the ones you showed--AA, AK, AQ are either losing or the win rates are far too low.

Among other things, this means that you are probably overplaying these big hands. This is the FR forum, not 6 max, so it is not the best place for people to be saying what is "overplaying," and what is not. You should conduct a detailed review of your big losses with these hands and post some of them in 6 max micro and get some opinions on whether you played them optimally.

I think you are simply losing too much money with your premium hands, and it is affecting your win rates.
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03-06-2009 , 07:39 PM
OK here are some more stats. I couldn't figure out how to show showdown winnings with and without blinds though...











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03-06-2009 , 07:55 PM
ty for the advice.
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03-07-2009 , 05:04 AM
This is my first time posting my stats in this thread, but here goes. Start off with my graph:

Now this is over 121k hands,

SB: 14862 -27.62 big blinds/100 15/9/36.8
BB: 14690 -35.29 bb/100 7/4/17.3
early: 33867 5.43 bb/100 7/6/40
middle: 28560 6.56 bb/100 8/6/37
cutoff: 14315 17.99 bb/100 14/11/36
button: 14921 31.05bb/100 20/17/36

Hands bb/100 Vpip/pfr/agg.

I have played 5nl 10nl and 25nl which are all included. These stats were tooken out of my Positional Report from my HEM database. Leak city IMO

Let me know if I need to post more info
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03-07-2009 , 08:26 AM
Hey guys,

just wanted to say something.

Mpethybridge is working his ass off for u guys, writing hundrets of sentences for just a screenshot. I really dont know why he is doing that, but some of u are leaking so big, u really should think about getting a private Session with him.

He's offering the "Leakfinder", together with SplitSuit.

I personal think he should stop answering here, but he obv likes it . Guys, give him something back

Leak finder is pretty much 2 Sessions. First one is with Matt, doing a Stats analysis. Cant tell you how long it is going to be. He did ~4hrs with me.

After the stats analyses u do another sesh with SplitSuit, trying to get rid of your leak while getting sweated.

And that just for 40$

That's just a steal

Think about guys

Bye
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03-07-2009 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by breather
Hey guys,

just wanted to say something.

Mpethybridge is working his ass off for u guys, writing hundrets of sentences for just a screenshot. I really dont know why he is doing that, but some of u are leaking so big, u really should think about getting a private Session with him.

He's offering the "Leakfinder", together with SplitSuit.

I personal think he should stop answering here, but he obv likes it . Guys, give him something back

Leak finder is pretty much 2 Sessions. First one is with Matt, doing a Stats analysis. Cant tell you how long it is going to be. He did ~4hrs with me.

After the stats analyses u do another sesh with SplitSuit, trying to get rid of your leak while getting sweated.

And that just for 40$

That's just a steal

Think about guys

Bye
Yeah they're awesome. Split's videos are really helpful aswell, though obviously not as benificial as what a one on one session would be
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03-08-2009 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by breather
Hey guys,

just wanted to say something.

Mpethybridge is working his ass off for u guys, writing hundrets of sentences for just a screenshot. I really dont know why he is doing that, but some of u are leaking so big, u really should think about getting a private Session with him.

He's offering the "Leakfinder", together with SplitSuit.

[... deletia for space ...]
I really appreciated having Mpethybridge look over my stats a few posts back, and when I move up and $40 isn't ~35% of my roll, I'll definitely consider doing that.
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03-08-2009 , 11:41 AM
Hi,

I know that 10k hands aren't that much but I would appreciate some comments about my stats before moving up.

It seems that my 3bet success is a bit low (52.3%) and that I'm too weak post flop (red line)









Thanks a lot in advance !

Last edited by DamienT; 03-08-2009 at 11:50 AM.
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03-08-2009 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by damienthierry
Hi,

I know that 10k hands aren't that much but I would appreciate some comments about my stats before moving up.

It seems that my 3bet success is a bit low (52.3%) and that I'm too weak post flop (red line)









Thanks a lot in advance !
First and overall, get a sample size!

Second and overall, get a sample size!

Third: U are leaking significantly in the BB and with your position play (could be 'cause of the sample size (u dont know why, read 1. and second )

Read the first post and the last 5-10 Pages within this thread and u will get the answers of your questions:

1. How can i improve in the blinds
2. How to play from the different positions

You dont need someone in here to tell you how to play, just do what wrote above and you'll be fine, till you hit the min. sample size of 25k-30k hands

Bye
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03-08-2009 , 01:08 PM
Thanks for your answer.

I understand that 10k hands are nothing. I'll re-post when I'll hit 30k hands :-)
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