yea i agree with the late position stuff. the problem was that i have just been sticking to a more ABC play and in NL10, my idea was to sit back and wait for some hands, and still be fairly selective (but not too selective) in LP. i want to branch out of this ABC play, so i will take on board what you said. thanks for the comment, i will post this somewhere else.

gruff

Hey there! I think I'm due for a review of my poker tracker stats. I've recently started to play 5NL, I've included those 4K hands in the stats even though my start at that limit was not very good. I think I adjusted pretty rapidly though.

I've reviewed my stats against the OP and I can't see any major leaks in my play, I'd like to know if there are!


Here is my graph for 2NL and 5NL.
I started play 5NL at around 20K hands and went back to 2NL a few times to get back some money.



Here is my graph for 2NL and 5NL without blinds.



My position play. (It's weird that I win more money from early positions right?)



My über stats. I learned to tighten up a little bit when I went to 5NL. And I'm mostly trying to play that same tightened up play at 2NL now. (Even if I haven't played it in some time.)



My session's stats.



Thanks in advance for your comments fellow 2+2ers

-Yannick

Solid, nothing to complain about.

Is the 100% CCPF in UTG what you referred to when you said "It's weird that I win more money from early positions right?"?

I think your winnings UTG would be even higher if you play stronger hands from EP and stop limp/calling raises.

What's up OTB, had some coolers or are you trying to steel against the wrong players?

Mostly coolers I'd say. Here are my biggest losses on BTN. I didn't include one I messed up for like 5$ but that's the only I see I played stupid.

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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CO: $5.91
Hero (BTN): $11.47
SB: $15.36
BB: $5.00
UTG: $7.29
UTG+1: $9.61
MP1: $10.40
MP2: $6.60

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 3 3
UTG calls $0.05, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, BB raises to $0.35, UTG calls $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.45) Q 3 2 (4 players)
BB bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $4.30, BB folds, UTG calls $3.05

Turn: ($11.30) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $6.82 all in, UTG calls $2.64 all in

River: ($16.58) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)




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MP2: $3.14
CO: $5.08
Hero (BTN): $6.40
SB: $7.78
BB: $2.06
UTG: $2.78
UTG+1: $0.41
MP1: $2.60

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.12, 3 folds, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.29) 3 5 2 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.24, CO calls $0.24

Turn: ($0.77) 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.70, CO calls $0.70

River: ($2.17) 3 (2 players)
CO bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1, CO raises to $4.02 all in, Hero calls $3.02




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UTG: $2.43
UTG+1: $3.45
MP1: $1.97
MP2: $5.71
CO: $3.17
Hero (BTN): $4.41
SB: $4.92
BB: $4.98

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.38, 3 folds, CO raises to $3.17 all in, Hero calls $2.79

Flop: ($6.39) 7 A 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($6.39) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($6.39) K (2 players - 1 is all in)




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MP: $0.91
CO: $2.00
Hero (BTN): $6.71
SB: $2.98
BB: $5.00
UTG: $5.11
UTG+1: $19.89

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with 5 A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.23) Q Q K (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.35) 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.36, Hero calls $0.36

River: ($1.07) 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $3.34, Hero calls $3.34




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SB: $5.23
BB: $1.96
UTG: $7.84
MP: $4.39
CO: $8.76
Hero (BTN): $4.98

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with J J
UTG raises to $0.08, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.08, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.26) J 3 T (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.22, SB calls $0.22, UTG folds

Turn: ($0.70) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.55, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $0.95

River: ($3.70) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $3.43 all in, Hero calls $3.18 all in

Nothing to worry about these things happen, give it a couple of k hands more and you'll see it will turn around.

OMFG, this post makes me so happy. Major congrats!!!!

Be CAREFUL opening up in the blinds, but go ahead and play around a little bit with it. You are retaining about 33% of your showdown winnings--you can have a long, happy and profitable career all the way up through $200 like that. Quit playing around and study more the instant you see a negative effect on your bind winrates. Take it slow, add one "play" at a time. You are winning at a good clip, so there's no hurry to get from 4.36 to 5.5 or whatever.

****, this post just made my fiscal quarter. I have been running bad and needed some good news. ****in A, roybert, way to go!

Thanks, yeah it was so rough trying get get out of that nearly breakeven rut at 1.76 i was getting very bored and about to quit. Just moved up to 50NL so far just at 2BB/100 but only over 10k. One thing I have noticed there is my cbet sucess rate has gone from 65% to 50%. I honestly thought the games would be nittier but I guess when they call pre they hold better then random junk and will play back at you more often, lol.

Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble beating the limits (NL5 ). I've done about 5400 hands this month and I can't seem to keep my head above water in terms of winning. I'd like to post some stats and/or graphs here for some quick advice, but have no idea what info is helpful for you guys to give me some advice.

Start with general and position stats.

Need some help







I am losing in non-showdown pots but, I have really never consistently won money in those spots and have still been able to pull out winning months. Does that mean that I have just been running good the times that I have actually been winning? If you need more info, tell me, thanks.

10k sample is a little low to start with, but here it goes.

SB seems to be your biggest problem. It looks like you are completing to much and not raising enough IMO. I would like to see SB PFR up around 8. This post ITT might be helpful

The following I have to make sure mpethybridge confirms, but here we go. I would tighten up a little OTB, not try and steal against fish who never folds from the blinds. If you have two nits or TAGs in the blinds then go ahead and steal with ATC, but if they play back, get ready to get the hell out. I would also try and open up some from HJ.

100% CCPF from UTG, are you calling 3bets UTG? If you raise from UTG and get 3bet, they are usually holding strong hands IMO. Folding those suited connectors and low pockets might not be such a bad idea in this spot.

I know it's only 5,000 hands, but any comments are welcomed. You can ignore the NL10 stats, I tried it because I figured I'd have to get used to playing 100 deep instead of 200, but I got totally steamrolled

5k hands ain't much but i'll give some feedback on the hands you've played.

1. You raise the same cards from all positions. In EP you should raise only strong hands and opening up as you move towards the button. PFR of about 2/3 of VPIP is a god number to aim for in each position. Taking the initiative is a god thing.
2. I think you would benefit from tightening up from EP and the blinds and opening up a little in LP. ATM you seem to play pretty much the same cards in EP and MP, opening up a bit in LP.
3. Read a couple of pages from the beginning of this thread, there are lots of good stuff. Also read the FAQ and stickies.

Hey guys. I need some help. I've been going through my PT3 database for the past couple of days now, because I've had a big break even stretch at NL25 in December. I also dropped down to NL10 to work my way back to my usually winrate.

This summer was the last time I played (I'm in my last year in college, and I can't really play poker during the semester), and I 18 tabled NL25 to 7.5PTBB/100. My numbers now, after starting up again Dec 1st, aren't much different, but I need help plugging a few leaks which are causing a terrible winrate this month.

I'm overrolled for NL25, so BR management isn't an issue. My non-showdown pots have always been a killer. It's usually not much of an issue, because I usually win so much at showdowns.

I've run badly in the past at higher limits, and I know what it's like to just hit variance. I feel like every session I'm struggling to stay afloat. I get up two buy-ins after like 500 hands then get set on, sucked out on twice, and I'm down 1-2 BIs. Then i struggle to get that back. I feel like there is a bigger leak present than just not running good.

Here is my PT3 info:















Feel free to flame me.

Thanks in advance!

I think you really need to work on the non-showdown pots. Perhaps you need to just single-table, or 2-table, until you manage to get non-showdown to neutral.
Yes, it's a chore. Paying attention, only playing 2 tables. But it did help me a lot getting my W$woSD line neutral. My PFR ration LP/EP is much higher now, like 4, yours is only like 2 or 3. Imagine winning all of that showdown line, that's what I do now. Get that damn red line up to neutral at least.

Hello, I'm kinda new to cash games and to this forum, so any help is very appreciated. But i'm not new to multi tabling so 24 tables all the time.
I play NL50 with very marginal winnings and looking how to improve a game.
How would You define my playing style, a nit? I'm stacking off players pretty often, but main problem should be that non showdowns winnings (losses actualy). How to avoid that ****ing red line? One hour without stacking opponents and all the profit shrinks or goes deep negative, not talking about when you loose some buy-ins with some coolers or so.

I just finished reading D. Sklansky NLHETP book and he writes that you should not care much about the blinds. Like don't steal with A3o because you can't with a big pot with it. And also don't defend your blinds facing hijack stealer with AJo because you all the way will be OOP with bad hand and make a lot of mistakes. Ok, I tried this

But I really don't know that these fundamentals(?) are right. All my red line goes from blind positions. All profit goes down and very down when I'm in BB or SB. I mean, why I should pay off loose blind stealers giving them up my blinds so often and not getting even close to that green line when I'm stealing from them with solid hands suitable for winning big pots (22+ A2s+ ATo+ QJo+ 45s+). Are they loosing less when in blinds defending it with KTo or similar stuff? Idk that. But the line when I open from BTN with A7s and BB calls flop QT7, i cbet, he call and check check till the river and he shows T8s to take down the pot occurs very often. And i'm folding T8s in his position. Because Sklansky said you are OOP, have a bad hand, you just can't win here!

Ok, here is my stats. Any discussion would be very nice.

To get the red line neutral: steal more, much more. Helped me. A3o OTB is perfect, really.
I am a newb, but from your stats it seems to me you are getting bluffed out of the pot too often, because your W$SD is too high and your W$WSF is lowish.

You need to work on isolating, cbetting, and 3betting more. There are some threads in here about that stuff, try searching for them.

If anyone has some links to that stuff please post'em.

Playing 24 tables puts you in autopilot sometimes. I would suggest you play say 4 tables one night and really think through every decision you make, ask yourself "why am I doing this play" before acting. Pay more attention to fish who limps which you can isolate, 3bet TAGs lighter who are trying to steel your blinds. And work on your opponents hand ranges, ask yourself "what is he calling my cbet with, is he floating A high or bottom/middle pair?" etc.

pele is correct, I think. He is definitely right on the small blind--you are completing way too much. check HEM, ut I am pretty sure that you will find that if you filter just fr the small blind hands that you complete, you will find that you are losing money.

The trickier question is the button. Your stats look fine, but your win rate is far below what it ought to be. All I can really say without doing an in depth analysis of your button play, which I can't do from these stats, is that you must be leaking post flop OTB, as your preflop button strategy seems solid.

pele suggested changing your preflop strategy. I'm not sure I would go that route. If you were negative on the button, then I would agree; but you are making a small profit. Therefore, I would say that you should keep doing what you are doing preflop, but work on figuring out what you are doing post flop that is slaughtering your win rate. If you take pele's advice, and stop raising, say, the bottom 10$ of what you are stealing with, your win rate would go up, but you'd be playing fewer hands, so your net profits wouldn't go up as fast or as far as they will if you stop making the post flop mistakes. pele's advice is also solid if you try and fail to figure out what you are doing wrong post flop.

pm me if you want to me to do a detailed review of your button play to help you find your leak(s).

edit to add: I think your CCPF% is too high in EP and MP.

HI

I'm play 9 table.

I think my AF is too low,and something need improve?

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After posting my NL10 results at #555 and my NL25 results at #705 I can say that my win rate has improved a little bit at NL50. Thanks again mpethybridge for doing excellent analysis.

In the pictures are my 10k hands of NL50. Do you see any leaks?
I would like to move up to NL100 asap. Any concerns about that (bankroll no issue)?

Best regards, Digga

Digga:

Your stats look really solid. There's not much i can complain about. There are just a few things where I think you have room for improvement playing 13/10:

1. Trim your loss rate in the BB. At -.18, you are still in the leak territory. It looks to me like the path to losing less in the BB for you is going to be to ramp up the post flop aggression a bit. Don't make any radical changes, but start experimenting a little with how you play these hands after the flop. You take only 18% of these hands to showdown, far below the average for all of the other positions. Set yourself a very modest goal of taking one more BB hand per 100 BB hands to showdown. An average win of 4BB in such a hand would trim your loss rate from -.18 to -.14. That'd be an excellent start in eliminating this leak.

Start studying the hands you fold in the BB and look at each to see whether it is possible you folded the best hand, and whether the way you played the hand contributed to you having to fold it (for instance, suppose you flop bottom pair HU v. the SB, and he checks to you on the flop, and you check behind. A king falls on the turn, the SB leads and you fold. this is a situation where, had you bet the flop, you might have won a small pot instead of losing a small one).

Another thing you might consider is defending a bit more often.

2. Further reduce your SB loss rate. Your loss rate in the SB is within the range where i consider your loss rate not to be a leak. You are playing the SB very well, and winning back over half of the blinds you post there. Now try to do better. It is possible to come close to breaking even in the small bind. So again, start looking for opportunities to win more in the SB. Make sure you are raising most hands when it is folded to you. Make sure you are not wasting money on low probability attempts to win small orphans, but are firing in high probability spots. The easiest way to find out what is working and what is not is to go back through your small blind hands for a few sessions and look for patterns--are stabs when there is a flush draw winning you money or losing you money? What about stabs on queen high flops? Jack high? just try to identify the best flops to stab at and the ones that are costing you money.

3. Study your button play. Your button W$WSF is low compared to your other positions. In part this is due to the fact that you are stealing so much that you are getting very little respect on the button. You should analyze your button play to make sure that you are losing the minimum on your losing hands and winning the maximum.

That's about all I can suggest for you. You have a pretty high win rate and solid stats. To bump up your winrate much more than it is I think you'll have to open up and start playing more hands.

Nice job, great stats. Well done.

I play on NL10 FR 24tables and want to analyze my stats.


VP$IP: 15,06
PFR: 12,03
AF: 2,96
AFq: 37,29 (Is this stat important?)
W$WSF: 33,71 (hig enough?)
WTSD: 24,19 (high enough?)
W$SD: 58,12
3Bet Total: 4,72
4Bet Total: 4,43
ATS: 48,02 (too high?)
CBet F: 55,05
CBet T: 35,17
CCPF: 3,73


What can I do better on this stats?


Here my winrate if someone use that to analyze too.


PTBB/100: 4,37
PTBB/Hour: 48,50


Samplesize is about 60k Hands. Could I Beat NL25 with those stats too? And could I play looser at this Limit with 24tabbling? I have with those stats too many Action and I think I have problems with looser stats.



Thx

Any help appreciated, thinking about moving up to NL10 since I hit the > $200mark. The stats are from Doyle's Room where I play now over 14K hands. I built my little bankroll from freeroll money, so the numbers don't add up to $200. Lately I've only been playing NL.4 because NL.2/.5 was downgraded. Also there's a small sample of NL10, this is from back in the beginning when I realised I was playing above my limits. So I quit that even though the money was good.

Would depositing $500 somewhere to play NL25 be a stupid move with my stats? I feel I'm not maximizing my winnings enough and maybe I play too standard poker for that level?

I was just reviewing the thread and saw this follow up question I had missed. Did you get an answer (I didn't see one)?