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03-12-2013 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooligan
still looking for help to my post ~4 above , tkx
Tighten up in early position. Fold more to 3-bets. Cbet a bit more. You have a tight opening range, your flop distribution should be quite strong.
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03-12-2013 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
Tighten up in early position. Fold more to 3-bets. Cbet a bit more. You have a tight opening range, your flop distribution should be quite strong.

yeh need to tighten up EP.. not sure about the 3et though, i already fold exploitably much, are you advicing i rather be exploitable than unprofitable? Or should i just lower my opening ranges, so i can be both unexploitable and profitable?

yeah my cbet is a bit "weak", but it also means i check back a lot when i think they will instafold ~100% of the time, and bluff cbet quite a lot instead

its adviced to be cbettin a lot, like 70-75%.. but i am not sure if its proven to be better than say bluff cbetting 40% and checking behind made hands for value on turn and possibly river too, obviously always betting out boards where i can cooler worse kickers

against regulars they very rarely call flop OOP without a very solid plan/sick draws, so if i cbet i only get 3bb from my pots instead of ~7 ish if i slowroll a bit

i need to improve my "initiative cbetting" for sure though.. i just have a hard time playing when i open KQs or something from EP.. i am OOP and flop comes J82 or something.. almost same with AK/AQ in that spot too.. although ace helps a lot


so pretty much my problem spots are the average broadway hands on semi-connected boards like that J8s.. 762.. 973.. any ideas for how to handle these OOP? .. feel so stupid for cbetting that against regularish players, and also its very bad to just checkfold a lot.. because i assume they have a lot of pairs and Ax hands.. suited connectors.. all hands that have similar or better equity on the flop
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03-12-2013 , 03:19 PM
Hooligan,

most players 3bet too little, so by folding more you exploit them. Moreover, if you call 3bets and then make mistakes postflop it is better to give up a little value by folding.

I'm not necessarily looking at your cbet percentage; I'm looking at the fact that you win too few pots when you see the flop.
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03-12-2013 , 04:00 PM
46% WWSF is low in these games?

What's a good number?

[edit]

Sorry, I looked at the wrong stats, I see that he's at 39%.
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03-12-2013 , 04:29 PM
ah ok, well i had 42-44% at one point when i played imo and deciding from results a way too aggressive postflop game that created a nice flat redline.. but blueline suffered too much from that play, so i went back to a more "weak tight" style.. not imo super weak but maybe a bit more conservative

maybe i open more pocket pairs than most people, for the reasons of hitting a set and winning a big pot, but maybe thats too optimistic thinking at 25nl+, should maybe stick to 88+ from EP and maybe 55+ from cutoff or so?.. i think those hands are dragging down quite a bit because obv i cant continue very easily with bottom pairs against nits

i almost only play suited connectors 56s+ from button.. almost only JTs+ cutoff, i know some people live by these but one would think sets are better as its more disguised etc.. i think flushes are hugely overrated and maybe youll get yourself coolored a lot every time you get big time action with flopped flush etc

also i steal a lot and will just toss away the pot if called by nits.. because the situation was only +ev if he folds pre, would just burn money if i bet flop too

Last edited by Hoooligan; 03-12-2013 at 04:35 PM.
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03-12-2013 , 04:34 PM
I have only 12k hands or so, and my WWSF is similar to yours.

I only cbet about 56%, and I also open all pp's utg. I also check behind the flop with a lot of medium hands that I don't think I can get three streets of value with.

I often feel like it's fire three barrels or don't fire at all.
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03-12-2013 , 04:48 PM
well depends what you call medium.. ill fire A82 board with 55-77 all day for example.. they fold a lot on flop.. but 55 on a KJ8 or KJ2 board isnt maybe the best always.. very villain dependant in these spots, a lot of people will give up easily on flop but wont fold to 2 barrels
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03-12-2013 , 04:56 PM
I'd probably check back AJ on A82 just because I don't expect to get called 3 streets by worse.

I'd cbet that board with 55-77 but that's a bluff more than a value bet.

I agree it's very villain dependent.
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03-12-2013 , 05:28 PM
you talk alot about 3 streets.. most common seems to be 2 streets.. atleast between regulars on at least 25nl.. probably 10nl too

bet flop, check turn, bet riv
bet flop, bet turn, check riv

personalyl i dont like checking flop if i got some average hand because its much uglier to call a turn donkbet (which can be total air or TPGK) than to just try and take the pot on flop

nothing wrong with betting out flop just because cbets are so general that people defend it with semigood draws or AK/AQ (air), or even a lower pocket pair hoping to only face 1 street .. you can check behind turn and call their mostly smallish river bet and still have best hand fairly often
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03-12-2013 , 05:57 PM
That's true.
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03-12-2013 , 06:57 PM
What kind of BRM is typical for full ring? (Sorry if this is the wrong place for this Q)
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03-13-2013 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
What kind of BRM is typical for full ring? (Sorry if this is the wrong place for this Q)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...gement-509726/

Cliffs: 20BI.

Good places for such general questions are the chat thread and the Stars reg thread.
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03-14-2013 , 11:02 AM
Hi guys been playing 10NL since 2 weeks or so.
wonder if you could check out my stats and notice some leaks.






Thanks in advance!
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03-15-2013 , 06:37 AM
I'm on another epic downswing, really not sure what I'm doing wrong but I must have some huge leaks. Hopefully someone can take a look and point something out, I realize that I am losing too much from the BB and this is something I am continuously working on.





Thanks in advance!

Last edited by Yazzx; 03-15-2013 at 06:37 AM. Reason: the last time i posted on this thread my downswing ended so heres hoping for the same :D
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03-15-2013 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Yazzx
I'm on another epic downswing, really not sure what I'm doing wrong but I must have some huge leaks. Hopefully someone can take a look and point something out, I realize that I am losing too much from the BB and this is something I am continuously working on.





Thanks in advance!
i think your leaks will be found if you add "pfr = true" and "unopened".. i think you are maybe playing a bit too tight from MP and opening 50-60% on button?.. sure its good to steal a lot but maybe you would win more if you steal less.. but as said this would be spotted if you add the filters above for the real button range

you probably play a very loose game from late pos and play your hands weak tight.. which probably costs you a lot

your flop aggression seems low to me but cant say for sure what you should be at.. but most stuff points to you playing a lot of hands without knowing how to profit from them

solution = learn to play pokers ;<
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03-17-2013 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooligan
well depends what you call medium.. ill fire A82 board with 55-77 all day for example.. they fold a lot on flop.. but 55 on a KJ8 or KJ2 board isnt maybe the best always.. very villain dependant in these spots, a lot of people will give up easily on flop but wont fold to 2 barrels
I'm not entirely sure about this but i believe Kxx is better to cbet on. You can maybe even look through your database and check for yourself if your cbets on Kxx boards are more successful as opposed to Axx boards. This is simply due to the fact that people automatically expect you to cbet Axx board and often times don't give you credit and another reason is that a lot of people play weak aces/suited aces which they end up calling with.

just my 2cents
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03-19-2013 , 07:49 AM
Hey guys, a little help here please; i've been playing NL10 FR with a winrate of 11bb/100 over a decent sample of 100K+ hands.Now playing NL20-30 on same platform but i'm break-even on a sample of 45K hands, i don't know what i'm doing wrong??? Here are some stats :




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03-19-2013 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by coolenrene
Hi guys been playing 10NL since 2 weeks or so.
wonder if you could check out my stats and notice some leaks.






Thanks in advance!
anyone?
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03-19-2013 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by coolenrene
anyone?
I think the stats look pretty good. But you do have a few things missing like what is your turn cbet% and steal succes from btn/sb.

Also I think flop cbet could be a lil more, considering that your cbet succes% is over 50% and you only need about 40% to make it profitable, you could cbet a lil more.

But other than that I think it looks really good?
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03-22-2013 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pool080
Hey guys, a little help here please; i've been playing NL10 FR with a winrate of 11bb/100 over a decent sample of 100K+ hands.Now playing NL20-30 on same platform but i'm break-even on a sample of 45K hands, i don't know what i'm doing wrong??? Here are some stats :




anyone?? thx.
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03-22-2013 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pool080
anyone?? thx.
From what I see the stats don't look bad. But this doesn't really tell us much because you might be just too stubborn in some spots. Do you find yourself not releasing a lot of "good looking" hands? Like overpairs where you know you're probably behind? You might just be overplaying some of these hands and losing big pots with them.

Other things might include: being more of a one-and-done type of player. Do you double barrel enough where your range looks strong or when you have a good draw?
What about your mindset, do you find yourself chasing losses frequently? If so, try to move away from results oriented thinking and focus more on the good decision making first. After that the money will come naturally.
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03-25-2013 , 01:33 PM
hi im playing NL5 and i have only 0,66BB/100 for 67,4k hand
i do not know what i do bad :-/





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03-25-2013 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vizivizi
hi im playing NL5 and i have only 0,66BB/100 for 67,4k hand
i do not know what i do bad :-/





seems like you're playing way too tight overall. 10/8 is way too nitty.
I think you could easily add a few hands and play a 12/10 13/11 which is a lot better but still kind of tight-ish.
EP opening range is alright I guess, could be higher, upwards of 8 and CO/BTN opening range could easily go over 20.
Your BB range is looser than your hijack and CO. Which is kind of backwards if you think about it, you should be playing looser in position not out of position.
Also fold to 3bet seems a little high, I think you could flat a few more hands vs someone who 3bets from the blinds or even 4bet them. Knock it down to 65% or something like that, maybe 70% but definitely not 80% which is way too much and is exploitable.

Other than that, maybe you're playing too many tables which causes you to autopilot a lot more and fold too much, passing up opportunities where you could make some extra $$. Small pots add up trust me, if you play too tight and only rely on winning with big hands, it's natural not to have a bigger win rate because you don't get nearly enough big hands to make up for all the other hands you just fold.
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03-27-2013 , 12:05 AM
Anyone have any standard filters for PT4 that they use for session reviews or to find leaks? Would really appreciate it!
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03-27-2013 , 07:38 PM
Really need help,easily beat nl2 but cant beat nl5
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