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01-20-2013 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
those are my NL25 stats:



anything wrong that i can improve?
Haha never thought I would say this about you but you fold far too much to 3bet. From the hands you post you are over thinking things and spewing massively.
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01-20-2013 , 03:58 PM
i told you i play straightfoward!

but i fold much to 3-bets because i steal pretty wide, around 50-60%
but people don't 3-bet me much, they know that i'm crazy and i 4-bet back to them a lot if they do it with some frequency...

so most of the guys 3-bet me for value.

also on that sample i had a lot of PPs in my UTG range, which i folded almost always to 3-bets, now i reduced it.
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01-20-2013 , 04:16 PM
my NL 10 stats

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01-20-2013 , 04:18 PM
hum, maybe i'm folding much more to check-raises on NL10 than NL25, 5% difference...

can this be that i'm more fishy and not believing people on NL25?
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01-20-2013 , 04:23 PM
Sick life Rapid, u profited a whole 75 cents overall. Which quite honestly is more than I have made pre rakeback this month lol.
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01-20-2013 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hicham009
Sick life Rapid, u profited a whole 75 cents overall. Which quite honestly is more than I have made pre rakeback this month lol.
yeah, maybe it would be better for me to stay on NL10 for the rest of my life haha

meeeh

at least i got some decent rakeback(which is saving me), getting platinum star!

on this month i've made 300 dollars of rakeback

but it sucks not moving up, i'll just put more effort and try to play more hands, play better and post here what gives me trouble >D

i hope i'll have the bankroll for another NL25 shot by the end of the month, but with 40 BI

also i'll have 2 months of vacation, which i'll put around 200k-300k hands each month(i hope so lol)
and i run waaay hotter in my parents house, my grinding place there is pretty calm, i play poker in an outdoor environment,
although the ergonomics are pretty fail there lol
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01-20-2013 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by big_lebawski
Here you are:


yeah, sample size is tiny but I want to make sure that I'm not doing something very wrong(obvious leak)
thanks
You are way too passive. Have you read the first page of this thread? Here are a couple of things that stick out:
  • Gap between VPIP and PFR too wide
  • PFR too low. Try to raise most hands you play
  • Aggression factor way too low (1 instead of 2-3)
  • WTSD way to high (35 instead of 25). This is related to the point above.
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01-20-2013 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
You are way too passive. Have you read the first page of this thread? Here are a couple of things that stick out:
  • Gap between VPIP and PFR too wide
  • PFR too low. Try to raise most hands you play
  • Aggression factor way too low (1 instead of 2-3)
  • WTSD way to high (35 instead of 25). This is related to the point above.
ty,
About PFR:
I always raise preflop except in SB and BB(I call with small pairs, etc)
I cant raise with those hands out of position, so I guess I need to fold them especially in SB(cuz I'm losing the most in that position)?
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01-21-2013 , 12:32 PM
I don't know if this thread is only for self stats. However I would like to hear your opinion regarding the stats of 2 regs that I face everytime at NL25, and if you notice some of their leaks. Unfortunately I can provide only a 20k hands sample (all I have).
I hope I can learn from your answers how to make a deep analysis of my regular opponents and find strategies to exploit them by myself.

First regular.
He plays also higher stakes (NL50 and NL100). Apart from what stats say, he seems to play loosely, flat a lot, but turn aggressive if I show weakness, like a check OTT after a cbet.






Second regular.
He plays NL10 and NL25, I think he's more an ABC player, but I have the feeling that he's targeting me, in particular he's restealing a lot and start 4betting light against my resteals. He had also widened ( I don't know if this verb exists ) his flatting range from time to time to my 3 bets. Apart from this, I consider him to be a decent reg.







P.S.
Another little question, this time is for my stats I tend to have a WTSD of 22 instead of the recomended 25, should I be worried by this and tend to go to SD more frequently or it can stay as it is? How much this affects my WR?
I'm asking this because if you take a look into the 2+2 Forum Archive I don't remember which thread was in particular. But there was a successful player that showed he's graph and showed that before he had a 25 WTSD, and was less aggessive OTT and this lead to be a marginal winner, after he had brought his WTSD to 22.5 and increased turn AF he crushed NL50 with a 5 BB/100.
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01-21-2013 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ceorge
I don't know if this thread is only for self stats. However I would like to hear your opinion regarding the stats of 2 regs that I face everytime at NL25, and if you notice some of their leaks. Unfortunately I can provide only a 20k hands sample (all I have).
I hope I can learn from your answers how to make a deep analysis of my regular opponents and find strategies to exploit them by myself.

First regular.
He plays also higher stakes (NL50 and NL100). Apart from what stats say, he seems to play loosely, flat a lot, but turn aggressive if I show weakness, like a check OTT after a cbet.






Second regular.
He plays NL10 and NL25, I think he's more an ABC player, but I have the feeling that he's targeting me, in particular he's restealing a lot and start 4betting light against my resteals. He had also widened ( I don't know if this verb exists ) his flatting range from time to time to my 3 bets. Apart from this, I consider him to be a decent reg.







P.S.
Another little question, this time is for my stats I tend to have a WTSD of 22 instead of the recomended 25, should I be worried by this and tend to go to SD more frequently or it can stay as it is? How much this affects my WR?
I'm asking this because if you take a look into the 2+2 Forum Archive I don't remember which thread was in particular. But there was a successful player that showed he's graph and showed that before he had a 25 WTSD, and was less aggessive OTT and this lead to be a marginal winner, after he had brought his WTSD to 22.5 and increased turn AF he crushed NL50 with a 5 BB/100.
against gys who float a lot and bluff you, try taking the donk line:
cbet, check-raise.

balance it with semi-bluffs and made hands like TPTK plus
you will force him to play tighter and more straightfoward against you.

also you can check-fold a lot of flops with your marginal holdings that are check-folding the turn.

you can still pick up a TPGK hand or midpair and check-call 3 streets as the PFR if he likes to throw 3 barrels lightly if you show weakness.

against people who call loose IP also it's good to tighten up your range, drop out unsuited connectors on the CO and hijack and QTo, JTo, focus on playing suited connected hands against him.

also PPs can be very profitable if you play pretty straightfoward against him(by check-folding a lot of flops if you have bottom pair) and bet-check-raising him a lot.
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01-22-2013 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ceorge
I don't know if this thread is only for self stats. However I would like to hear your opinion regarding the stats of 2 regs that I face everytime at NL25, and if you notice some of their leaks. Unfortunately I can provide only a 20k hands sample (all I have).
I hope I can learn from your answers how to make a deep analysis of my regular opponents and find strategies to exploit them by myself.
Nice site selection! Would be interested to know where you play

Both of these guys suck hard and have major preflop leaks. 16/7 and 12/8. 20% attempt to steal? Oh dear. Postflop is harder to gauge from stats, especially PT3 stats which are presented just horribly. No wonder we all switched to HEM. If they are winning players then either they must play well post flop or the site you play on is 3 times softer than Stars.
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01-22-2013 , 10:28 PM


My first 10k hands at 25NL. Thanks for the help earlier in the thread.
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01-23-2013 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by blame_hofmann
Nice site selection! Would be interested to know where you play

Both of these guys suck hard and have major preflop leaks. 16/7 and 12/8. 20% attempt to steal? Oh dear. Postflop is harder to gauge from stats, especially PT3 stats which are presented just horribly. No wonder we all switched to HEM. If they are winning players then either they must play well post flop or the site you play on is 3 times softer than Stars.
I play in an italian poker site, unfortunately for you it's restricted to Italian people.

How would you suggest to exploit them preflop?
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01-23-2013 , 04:37 PM
Hello, this is my RUSH NL5, please give some advices. My starting hands, which i'm using is little tighter than this:

UTG: ATs+, AJo+, KQ, 22+
MP: A2s+, ATo+, 98s+, 22+
CO: A2s+, A7o+, broadways, 76s+, 22+
BU: A2+, broadways, 75s+, 54s+, K2s+, 22+

and here's my stats ... :/







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01-23-2013 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by socialPSYcho
Hello, this is my RUSH NL5, please give some advices.
You are cold calling way, way too much. 14% is way too much and as a general rule of thumb you usually have to have a stronger range than what the villain is opening when you do decide to cold call. As you get better that can change but its good for starters.

Its hard to say if you are limping with that as well but if you are then It might be a good idea to stop it. Again as a general rule of thumb if a hand is good enough to play and it is folded to you then its good enough to raise. It will debatable as to whether you are yet good enough to open the range that you are saying and I would suggest tightening a little bit for the time been until you get a good grasp on some basic spots.

You are going to show down way too much mainly due to you cold calling too much and taking too many weak hands to the river hence the low AF as well.

Thats probably a few areas to work on straight away.
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01-26-2013 , 07:46 AM
Great thread, so I'd thought I will give it a try. I have made screenshots from different positions in my HM of the last ~50k hands, hopefully someone is willing to review this.

BB stats:


SB stats:


EP stats:


MP stats:


CO/BTN:


Overall stats + graph:




Some other stats that might be relevant:
  • 74% cbet
  • cb succes 53%
  • turn cbet 38% (big gap?)
  • 36% steal
  • Coldcall% 9

Thanks in advance.
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01-26-2013 , 08:27 AM
^^^ Nice work.

Bit of a gap between your cbet and turn cbet and some players will know they can flaot you and you are going to play pretty honest on the turn. You could probably drop the flop cbet% a little and bring the turn cbet% up a bit but that will come as you understand board textures more.

You might be calling 3bets too much when you probably should fold or 4bet instead but again at the level you are playing having a low 4bet% isnt really a big deal but calling too many 3bets could be.

Oh and move up, on the face of it you look too good to be playing NL5 and could probably beat NL25 and NL50 with a couple of minor adjustments.
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01-26-2013 , 10:29 AM
Thanks! Well its just more of a challenge for myself to move up and relearn CGs. Since I didnt play hands online since 2009

I figured I was cold calling 3bets too much, my 4b range consist basically in broadways, unless I clash with 3betting regs (NL5).

How can I understand both: balancing 3/4bet ranges and cbetting versus boardtexture better.

Again, thanks in advance.
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01-26-2013 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MartL
^^^ Nice work.

Bit of a gap between your cbet and turn cbet...
This nonsense just won't die, will it? It's not the gap that matters, it is the absolute turn cbet percentage.
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01-26-2013 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
This nonsense just won't die, will it? It's not the gap that matters, it is the absolute turn cbet percentage.
Mind to elaborate a bit on this? Thanks!
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01-26-2013 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
This nonsense just won't die, will it? It's not the gap that matters, it is the absolute turn cbet percentage.
Not quite sure what you mean? Obviously he has a big gap like I stated and also that as he moves up thats going to be pretty easy to play against and exploit, especially from someone opening so wide.
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01-26-2013 , 02:24 PM
So can you tell me why a gap between FCbet and TCbet is relevant? Maybe I misunderstand something.
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01-26-2013 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
So can you tell me why a gap between FCbet and TCbet is relevant? Maybe I misunderstand something.
The only relevance I really alluded to was that somebody with a really wide opening range and a high cbet and low turn cbet is going to be easy to read. I guess its in the same way that I probably get exploited for having a pretty high flop and turn cbet. Obvious its only relevant if villains are good enough to exploit you.

From personal experience I would say someone opening so wide and cbetting so much is probably betting on some flops that they probably shouldnt be so by lowering the cbet% it is probably going to naturally bring the turn cbet stat up a bit isnt it?

I guess been a quality or quantity cbetter is open to debate and style of play though.
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01-26-2013 , 02:51 PM
The usual argument I have heard is that against somebody with a big gap you can profitably float without equity. However, if you really think it through, the profitability of a float is a function of TCbet% (and the size of the flop cbet). Assuming for simplicity that villain cbet 1/2 pot, and that a check on the turn means he's giving up, the float makes money instantly if TCbet<75%. (For a pot sized bet this goes down to 66%.) The FCbet frequency has no influence whatsoever.

So if you want to play unexploitably, then bring your TCbet up and balance your turn checking range.

The usual fish at the micros will fold on the flop when they miss, and they won't fold on the turn when they hit. Hence against them, FCbet=70% and TCbet=30% may be ideal, the turn bet being for value only.
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01-27-2013 , 06:37 AM
Thanks Cangurino, I tried to -close- the gap and see how it turned out, even that it's only a small sample, there is just no value at the micros in balacning your Tcbet%. Regs play mostly fit and fold or show agression themselves and fishes just dont fold when they hit. Thanks for your -eye- opener.
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