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12-04-2012 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutschel
I've been trying to analize everything on my own so far, then I found this page and I thought it would be nice to get some feedback.
Do you see any hefty leaks? Can I consider moving up yet? (I have the bankroll) Is NL50 much different from NL25?
So what were your conclusions?

Anytime you beat a limit and have the bankroll you can move up if your willing to move back down if necessary. The best way to find out if NL50 is much different from NL25 is to play it.
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12-04-2012 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
So what were your conclusions?
I noticed my high Vpip in the blinds. Do I play (just call) to many hands from the blinds? I think my 3bet % could be higher from these positions.
I noticed that I have the tendency to call more often on the button. Should I 3bet more frequently here, too?


This relates to the second question. I don't do very well when there's a raise (and/or a call) infront of me, as I often just call. 3bet more? Fold more?


Do I lose to much money with one pair (mostly tp)? I've been trying to work on that, because I lost a lot with tp in the beginning. But now I see that i mostly play them very passivly. What should I really try to do here?

I like my continuationbet numbers on the flop, but I'm not to sure about the turn and the river, as I don't really have an idea what my numbers should be there. Do these numbers imply that I should barrel the turn more often? I have a feeling that I give up a lot when they call me on the flop (Some opponents know that and float a lot, but yet again, I'm not sure about this).
Also I'm not sure about my 4bet %, but I think these numbers are quite ok?
My agression % gets lower, the later position I play in. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Sometimes I feel I play a little too passive, do the numbers agree on that?

Last edited by Gutschel; 12-04-2012 at 08:08 AM.
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12-04-2012 , 08:37 AM
need to edit it once again, posted the wrong pictures omfg

Last edited by Gutschel; 12-04-2012 at 09:04 AM.
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12-04-2012 , 08:48 AM
Probably too late to edit them, just post them again.
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12-04-2012 , 09:04 AM
Hi guys,

This is my first post, so be kind to me I've been playing NL25 Fullring pretty seriously for the last 2 months (I know my filter says "this year", but that's just because I wanted to include all the sessions (2 more or so)). I've been trying to analize everything on my own so far, then I found this page and I thought it would be nice to get some feedback.
Do you see any hefty leaks? Can I consider moving up yet? (I have the bankroll) Is NL50 much different from NL25?






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Originally Posted by Cangurino
So what were your conclusions?
I noticed my high Vpip in the bigblind. Do I play (just call) to many hands from the bigblind? I think my 3bet % could be higher from this position (especially when folded to SB, and he opens). Sould I approach this the same way as I do in the small blind? In the SB I'm doing pretty ok.
I noticed that I have the tendency to call more often on the button. Should I 3bet more frequently here, too?


This relates to the second question. I don't do very well when there's a raise (and call) infront of me, as I often just call. 3bet more? Fold more?


Do I lose to much money with one pair (mostly tp)? I've been trying to work on that, because I lost a lot with tp in the beginning. But now I see that i mostly play them very passivly. What should I really try to do here? I know it's really depending on the opponent, but is there a general advice or smthng?

I like my continuationbet numbers on the flop, but I'm not to sure about the turn and the river, as I don't really have an idea what my numbers should be there. Do these numbers imply that I should barrel the turn more often? I have a feeling that I give up a lot when they call me on the flop (Some opponents know that and float a lot, but yet again, I'm not sure about this).
Also I'm not sure about my 4bet %, but I think these numbers are quite ok?
My agression % gets lower, the later position I play in. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Sometimes I feel I play a little too passive, do the numbers agree on that?
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12-07-2012 , 07:23 PM
Ok, I've just finished 10,000 hands of 2NL and would like some idea of where to look for leaks in my game before I give 5NL a try. I understand 10k is a small sample, but even a rough idea if anything I'm doing is obviously wrong would be helpful.

Thanks in advance.






If I need to post any other stats let me know.
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12-08-2012 , 04:07 PM
Am i fixing my game?
sometime ago i was playing crazy bluffing a lot and lost a lot...
now i'm playing more solid, dropped out the 0% equity bluffs and i'm semi-bluffing,

do you guys think that my game is improving by looking at this graph?

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12-08-2012 , 09:26 PM
Just started playing after a break from poker, used to be a winning player at 25nl but seem to have lost my touch. Can anyone push me in the right direction?





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12-09-2012 , 07:15 PM
Playing 5nl Zoom and looking for a stats check & opinions please:





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12-10-2012 , 03:29 AM
Greetings Everyone! First time poster, Long time reader.

I could really use some help figuring out why I can't seem to do better than break-even at 10NL. Now I want everyone to know that I have been reading and searching the forum to find my own answers, and solve as many problems as I could on my own before throwing up this post. I started playing back in September. When I first started out at 2NL I had no regard for position, I played 20 tables at a time, I never stole the blinds, I never 3bet or squeezed, I slow played top pair, and I never Cbet, and my Stats where far from ideal.

Needless to say, since September I have been correcting these issues one by one, and I have managed to work my way up to 10NL. At 10NL, I feel I have a good understanding of what everyone is doing. My Stats are within the suggest guidelines, with a few reasonable (but still profitable) exceptions. I feel that I'm playing pretty solid poker. First I started playing only 2 tables, and slowly worked to 10, which is still very comfortable. I'm extracting value when I can, I'm squeezing in position, I'm Cbetting in the right spots, I'm floating the right opponents, I'm stealing and defending my blinds in a profitable manner, but yet I'm still just breaking even.

I have been looking through some of my stats, and I think the problem is related to seeing too many showdowns with just one or two pair. I've run some filters, and I'm losing when I BET-CALL on the turn (-$100) and/or river (-$215) with anything less than a set. I'm also losing in the same situation for the CHECK-CALL line (-$90 Turn & -$135 Riv). The total losses for both lines on both streets is about $550. At first I thought, "Great, I'll just fold when I get bet into on the turn or river, while I hold anything less than a set, and that should add $550 over the equal sample size". Now this seems logical at first, but then when I thought about it more, I realized that I can't just add up all those losses, and expect that to be my savings if I chose to fold because, 1) Some of the hands I'm calling on the turn are the same hands I'm calling on the River, and 2)Just folding in those situations, won't save me the total losses for the whole hand, it will only save me that last bet which I called. So I wouldn't see $550 in savings, it's more likely to be something like $200 max.

So the questions is, does anyone agree that this is my problem, do you think it's something else? Below you will find my "Leak Buster" Stats from HEM2, as well as my sorry @$$ graph, and positional stats. Thank you for your time guys, I look forward to any criticism you have to offer.

A couple of Notes:

1) I know I could be stealing a bit more, so I'm I'm adding a few hands on the CO.

2) I know 83% is high for cbet, but I raise 3xBB and I cBet 2/3 pot size, so I'm profitable at 47% success rate. It works at this limit, but i will adjust if I ever move up.

3) Some may consider my 3bets from SB to be high, but it works 70% of the time, I feel it's a tad low. I feel my SB play could be improved, but I'm not sure how. However, I think my BB play is working as I'm saving some 63bb/100 compared to just folding. (Is this correct?)

4) Currently my WTSD% is 24%, while my W$WSD% is 42%, This is obviously out of the suggested range for TAG/LAGs, but I don't think this implies I need to see more showdowns, I think it's telling me that for my current style of play to be more profitable, I need to move towards 20% WTSD. Which fits with my earlier hypothesis, of seeing fewer showdowns with two pairs or top pair, when I'm bet into on the turn and/or river. What do you think????










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12-10-2012 , 06:03 AM
Solid post. A few comments.

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Originally Posted by slingblade
2) I know 83% is high for cbet, but I raise 3xBB and I cBet 2/3 pot size, so I'm profitable at 47% success rate. It works at this limit, but i will adjust if I ever move up.

Just because it is profitable doesn't mean you can't improve. Maybe cbetting less can improve your success rate and your overall profit.

3) Some may consider my 3bets from SB to be high, but it works 70% of the time, I feel it's a tad low. I feel my SB play could be improved, but I'm not sure how. However, I think my BB play is working as I'm saving some 63bb/100 compared to just folding. (Is this correct?)
Correct. BB winrate looks ok; SB not so much. To me, SB is actually the only position where your 3bet rate does not look a tad high (for these games).

4) Currently my WTSD% is 24%, while my W$WSD% is 42%, This is obviously out of the suggested range for TAG/LAGs, but I don't think this implies I need to see more showdowns, I think it's telling me that for my current style of play to be more profitable, I need to move towards 20% WTSD. Which fits with my earlier hypothesis, of seeing fewer showdowns with two pairs or top pair, when I'm bet into on the turn and/or river. What do you think????

This, together with your blueline nosedive supports your earlier statement that you call too many raises on the later streets. An old rule of thumb - which still holds at the micros - says that turn raises are not bluffs.
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12-10-2012 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by slingblade
I have been looking through some of my stats, and I think the problem is related to seeing too many showdowns with just one or two pair. I've run some filters, and I'm losing when I BET-CALL on the turn (-$100) and/or river (-$215) with anything less than a set. I'm also losing in the same situation for the CHECK-CALL line (-$90 Turn & -$135 Riv).
I think that you do a great job analyzing your own play. The part that I quoted is, in my opinion, your biggest leak. Looking at your graph I would advise you to go to showdown less often, when you face too many resistance, especially at microstakes, folding one/two pair isn't a leak at all.

If you do that, your blue line should go up considerably.
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12-11-2012 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
Just because it is profitable doesn't mean you can't improve. Maybe cbetting less can improve your success rate and your overall profit.

This is a great point! I totally overlooked that fact that although it may be profitable, I may not be achieving optimal profitability. I'll start looking for more spots to check.

....SB not so much. To me, SB is actually the only position where your 3bet rate does not look a tad high (for these games).

Sorry I'm a bit confused, are you suggesting that my 3Bet in other positions is a bit high, or that I have room to increase my 3bet% from the SB?
Thank you both for your help, I'll make the changes and hopefully post an update on the effects at the end of the month.

Thanks again.
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12-14-2012 , 01:43 AM
Can anyone help me with my stats...



For those who have trouble seeing it

29k hands

Vpip 14.8
PFR 11.0
3bet 2.7
WTSD% 25.9
W$SD% 54.6
AGG 2.43
AGG % 19.5

Appreciate any feedback. Anymore specific info you want me to filter through HM2 or think I should look for let me know.
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12-14-2012 , 04:36 AM
The few stats that you have posted don't give much information, although AGG% is very low, and you are obviously getting killed at NL2. I would recommend SirCuddles' thread even though it is a bit dated.
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12-14-2012 , 09:39 PM
Hey guys, first post here.

I feel like I should be winning much more at 0.01/0.02 NL full ring but I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Someone told me not to worry about the orange/blue/red lines for now at the micros so I'm kinda confused and need some help.

Any advice would be appreciated thanks.




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12-16-2012 , 09:40 AM
Hey guys,

Can i just ask quickly, are there anyone analysing stats any longer? it seems like there is just a lot of people posting stats, and nobody really analyzing them.

I might be wrong though, but i would like my play looked at.

Btw, i'm in no way capable of analyzing your stats myself
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12-16-2012 , 10:37 AM
How can we check flop cbet winrates?
FE if I want to isolate spots when flop was cbet and then no more money were put into the pot.

Does this filters look ok?

UO/action =PFR/4BET=false/called 3bet=false/Fcbet=true/Flop bet-call=false/Flop bet-raise=false/Tcbet =false/T check-call=false/T check-raise =false/saw River=false/

Is it necessary to pick only unmade hands?
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12-17-2012 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by scskor
Hey guys, first post here.

I feel like I should be winning much more at 0.01/0.02 NL full ring but I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Someone told me not to worry about the orange/blue/red lines for now at the micros so I'm kinda confused and need some help.

Any advice would be appreciated thanks.

One thing that sticks out is your high WTSD/low W$SD combination, which may indicate that you call down too much when behind. The typical NL2 player is loose-passive, so when you face aggression you should fold a lot.

That being said, 6.8bb/100 isn't great, but it's not shabby either.
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12-17-2012 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sebsejr
Hey guys,

Can i just ask quickly, are there anyone analysing stats any longer? it seems like there is just a lot of people posting stats, and nobody really analyzing them.

I might be wrong though, but i would like my play looked at.

Btw, i'm in no way capable of analyzing your stats myself
I try to comment when I see something that looks off. I'm not a great expert myself, but I've seen my share of stats screenshots.

As for analysing your own stats, have you read the first page of this thread?
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12-17-2012 , 11:12 PM
Hi everyone,

Have been playing nearly 40k this month at NL10 6max and i'm looking for some analyzing if it's possible please.

I know that my game is really far from perfect, and i'm looking for improvement so any criticism would be appreciated. I feel like i'm setmining too often (at the beginning of the month, i was calling alot of 3b/ setmining) and maybe i play too much from the blinds?







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12-18-2012 , 04:20 AM
You might get more love in the 6-max forum, since this thread here is full of FR nits.
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12-18-2012 , 08:11 AM
Oops, i've misreaded.

My fault, sorry. haha
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12-24-2012 , 12:52 PM
Is this normal? lol

20 BI below EV on 20k hands is pretty sad lol

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12-24-2012 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Is this normal? lol

20 BI below EV on 20k hands is pretty sad lol

sad but standard.. it will turn, keep going!
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