Try some more aggression. Your VPIP and PFR are not close enough in typical 2+2 terms. Either open fold more or raise those hands up. This sort of passivity is likely leaving you in a place where you are getting isolated OOP which causes the steady -Redline as you'll wind up check folding to tons of cbets.

I'd err on the side of Open folding more often from early position and raise more on the button. 8% PFR on the button means you are leaving all sorts of money on the table from steals and positional advantage. The same way getting isolated OOP is prob hurting you apply that to others while cutting it out of your own game and things should be good.

Your results show you have a solid understanding of the game but are likely just missing a few key points.

Small sample but things look good so far. You're going to need to provide more in depth stats to get some good feedback as it looks like your applying most of the basics well.

FWIW there are LOADS of 2+2 Regs that would like your results.


Could look into 3betting positianlly a little more and possibly pushing draws harder. The nice redline means you are agrressive and villian's are noticing. Start really putting them to the test by amping up a few double barrels/turn shoves when you've got good equity as you obvsiosly are getting FE respect. It's going to be higher variance, so watch the tilt if it backlashes but it's worth a shot to see what the limits are if you want to really crush (5ptbb/100)

Also take a look at your bet sizing, are you scaring off folks going for too much value. Maybe sacrifice some of that redline for a higher green.

there is no such thing.. even at 25NL..

This is 21K hands of RUSH poker 10NL.






I should probably say that before RUSH poker, I was a 5nl FR player. I played 14/10 game with a 2.76ptBB/100 winrate over 35k hands. When RUSH poker was announced, I immediately moved to 10nl as that was the lowest limit available. Here are my previous stats.




Ever since I started playing RUSH poker, several changes to my game has been made. I have become much more exploitable IMO. But do to the nature of RUSH poker, I am not sure if my opponents can capitalize on my play. These are the changes I've made:

-I have loosened my game up to a 17/10. I have been seeing more cheap flops with speculative hands in Late position (such as suited connectors and double suited connectors).
-I abuse my position (increased attempt to steal to ~40%)
-I have decreased my 3bet% (due to being hudless, I only 3bet my super premiums now). I sometimes flat AKo OOP now versus ~50-60bb effective stacks.
-My blind play has become much weaker (due to being hudless)... especially my SB play.

I would appreciate any criticism that anyone has to offer.

There's some very good advice (especially post #2613) from johnnytothec ITT.

Can somebody give me some feedback on my stats? I posted a little while ago without too many hands played and didn't get much response, so I figure I would post again now that I have played more.

All hands are FR 25NL. I took a shot at 50NL and it did not go too well, although it was a pretty small sample size. Would like to try again, but would like to collect any pointers first. Thanks.

Hi

i've been multitabling NL10 @ PStars currently 15-tabling.
i gues my att to steal is litlebit low and blinds leaking some bucks...




any tips or comments?

There seem to be some standard numbers/%ages that are repeated throughout this thread. Has anyone grunched them anywhere? Maybe the top ten key numbers?

eg .. ATS 30% to 35%, WTSD 25%, W$WSF 40% ... if we had to pick a top ten to keep an eye on with an approx winning figure, before a complete analysis, what/where would they be?

Figured I would post up my 10NL stats as I close to moving up to 25L.

I usually 4table 10NL on Full Tilt. Looking forward to any and all criticisms!

W$SD is a little high .. probably folding too many river bets when you're good. It wouldn't hurt to see a few more showdowns.

ATS s/b over 30% & W$WSF should be over 40%

Hard to argue with your results though ... if it was me I'd tweak a little at a time. Certainly nothing outrageous

I am playing the same style at 25NL RUSH with very similiar results. I think you can steal more, maybe get ATS around 45% and PFR to 12%.

What are the ideal stats for a 10NL 6max player? I've played some hands at 10NL 6max rush, but I might have a hard time adapting as I'm usually an FR player. These are my current stats:

VPIP: 15.63
PFR: 13.17
W$WSF: 47.6
WTSD: 22.71
W$SD: 71.15 (This is ridiculously high for some reason, small stample though)
AF: 4.87
AFQ: 51.96
3bet: 3.30
Fold to 3b: 87.80
Steal att.: 31.65
Fold BB/SB to steal: 82.81/90.57 respectively.

Hope this helps, Im a complete idiot when it comes to figuring my stats out, looking for leaks etc. is there anything else I should post?

my stats for ~17k 10NL hands. i am close-ish to moving up to 25NL, even though i've hit a mofo of a BE patch.

What can i change in my game? Im a 25/21/11

I know that i dont have any bankroll management, every time im stuck i move up in limits to win it back.

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Well, Well, Well, this post has been around for a long time now. I remember posting in it when I was just a weeee lad.

All kidding aside, I've been finding myself doubting my game a lot lately. I slowly Ground my way up from 2nl w/ a $50.00 roll to a $600.00 roll and have been taking shots at 25nl. Unfortunatly I've been getting absolutely crushed. I'm gonna post my stats here, and comment on them myself. Let me know what you guys think about my stats, and my analysis of them. How often do you get to analyze an analysis, I mean come on! Ok, here goes nothing.





Wow, getting those to work was extra difficult for some reason. On to my analysis.

First the basic positional awareness seems to be there. I'm very tighter UTG and slowly loosen up as I approach the button, and am loosest OTB. Looking at it, I'm still playing >10% of my hands in early position, which I would think is a leak. So I should tighten up even more in EP (UTG, UTG+1, and MP) Looking at the stats, the way I am playing in those positions now, I'm almost better off just folding 100% in them. That means its a huge leak for me.

My Blind play seems to be alright, I'm making back 2/3 of what I pay to the blinds from those positions, which as I understand is considered acceptable.

Looking at the actions by street, it looks like my turn/river aggression are both a little low. I would try to rationalize this by saying that most of the time when I cbet I take it down, if I don't I figure the person has a hand (mostly playing pots in this manner against people w/ fold to cbets of 60%+) so when I see a turn I'm going to have a 2 street value hand and am going to want to pot control either the turn or river. Most of my aggressive draw plays are going to be made on the flop since that is the point at which I have the most equity in the hand. So I check to take the free card, or call if I'm getting odds. I'm sure there is way more to this and it is one of the things I really feel like I could use help with.

My ATS is 45, which is pretty high, and 86% of the time I try to steal I either win the pot w/o a showdown or win at showdown. I think that means I am pretty successfull at that aspect of my game.

One thing I noticed is that my redline is very negative which is normal at 10nl and less. However it is still very negative at 25nl. Some things I could do to work on that is to fold sooner in a hand. If I'm in a hand that I'm probably not going to take to showdown, to let it go sooner. And to be more aggressive on the turn/river w/ hands I plan on taking to showdown to get more folds from very bad hands, and more calls from the hands that I beat. This would both lower my w$ @ sd which is a bit high I imagine for someone playing a 22/16 style.

I'm not sure what the 28.8% went to showdown signifies, according to the OP it is a bit high, which I suppose would be fixed by me value betting harder again. Not that I should be changing my game to attempt to fit specific stats, but I feel like I've been bleeding at 25nl. Trying to find something small to change.

I did fine at the micros, but have been having real trouble at 25nl. I feel like I'm playing good poker, but after 12k hands I'm still down more then 8 buy-ins.

I haven't changed my game much from the micros, but the player types have changed a lot, meaning I'm bluffing the nits/regs more and vbetting less w/ small pots hands (TPGK) while still Vtowning fish whenever possible.

I don't want this to turn into a big strat post though, so I'll stop here.

What are your thoughts folks?
any responses are greatly appreciated.

TLDR :: HALP I'm getting beat at 25nl, after walking through the micros.

Those are combined stats right from all ur micro play? have you looked at 'em separate to see if their were changes to your game when moving up?

I noticed my stats changed when I moved to 25nl (VPIP lowered, PFR & Agg increased cuz i played more scared and tried to push ppl off pots).

Curious if that would reveal anything

Aye, I have, and I'm playing slightly tighter like 22.5 -> 21.8, with a similar change to my pfr, I'll post my stats by stake in a second.


like i said, really small differences.

@Tehbeast

Your stats are soooo weird...

1- VPIP is high and W$WSF is high but your red line goes down... It might be because you can't fold in a hand unless you are 100% sure you are beat. Either you ALWAYS float or ALWAYS raise a cbet even if you are against a 7/7 nit, then you fold to further aggression (I am just making a guess here and I might be wrong obviously but if I am right try finding better spot to do so because it cost you a lot of money).

2- Then your WTSD is really high but you W$SD is also high... I think you might be running pretty hot.

28,8% is quite high... for someone who has 12% VPIP. You got 22% VPIP so this stats is freaking high. You should fold more postflop (preflop also..). You won't go to showdown less often because you value bet harder, because a value bet is suppose to get call.

Overall I would play fewer hands UTG and MP, late position is okay but I would still play a little tighter. And fold much more post flop.

I was thiking that Vbetting harder would get me to showdown less because people are calling me more often, meaning I'm leaving some value on the table by my vbets being to small... When I sa vbetting harder, I mean bigger, not more often. thoughts?

That is definatly true, I think I need to work on folding hands sooner when I am likely to face more aggression, ran into this situation yesterday actually and put myself in a real tough spot w/ a marginal hand.


Thats just not true, I actually rarely float, and almost never get cbet. I need a really good reason to float, I just give people credit on their flop bets. I haven't been seeing many people cbet actually. I'll need to think about and pay attention to this in the future.

Was working on this w/ my study group actually, I made a few bad donks into a pfr and we had a long discussion about better ways to do it (either c/r as a bluff or c/c for value)

Please help me fix my play from the blinds!
First graph is without blinds, and second graph with blinds.
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Thanks for advance

So it really doesn't matter where the money comes from ... but what am I doing that makes my redline go up as opposed to 95% of the others I see that trend down?

I'd like to be able play it both ways but need to know what causes it. Like a good golfer who can hook and draw a ball I'd like to be able to play both games. I'm sure there are a few general reasons that don't require a ton of stats.

I also know the sample is small but I'm just getting started with the cash game. I hope to have a decent sample by the end of March so I can get some meaningful analysis and then possible some coaching

@bebek
you are doing good in the blinds (could be a little better in SB but its not so bad as it is, you lose less than if you folded 100% of your SB). You should make more money in BTN and CO though.

@Mingdu
I can't tell you anything by looking at the lines, your stats would be a much better indicator of what you are doing. I will take the guess that you often bet/bet/bet, so sometime you might push people out of the pot when you want to keep them in with a marginal hand.

Indeed, he posted those advices after analysing my stats.

I followed these and got some pretty decent results, now I'm rolling at NL25, so, thanks to Johnnytothec imo ^^

What is good winrate from blinds?