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01-11-2010 , 06:11 PM
JulioCalzadilla,

I would defend your blinds a bit more and open up in late position. Well, I'd open up everywhere a bit, but maybe playing tight is your style.

7000 hands is a pretty small sample by the way. You can be crushing the competition and easily break even over 7000 hands.
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01-11-2010 , 06:12 PM
Anyone going to give my stats a shot? They're on page 171.
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01-11-2010 , 06:33 PM
Muffinman, looks like you're kicking ass. Perhaps stop completing your SB as often. Although you seem to be doing real well from that position. I'd also say your 48/41 from the button looks insane, but it's hard to argue with your 48bb/100 from that position.

I say just keep on keeping on. People would kill for that win rate albeit over a small sample.
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01-11-2010 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DDAWD
Muffinman, looks like you're kicking ass. Perhaps stop completing your SB as often. Although you seem to be doing real well from that position. I'd also say your 48/41 from the button looks insane, but it's hard to argue with your 48bb/100 from that position.

I say just keep on keeping on. People would kill for that win rate albeit over a small sample.
looks like you need to reevaluate more when you have TPWK
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01-11-2010 , 07:12 PM
I've been shot taking at 50nl, playing a TAG 13/9 style. I was right at break even after a cooler session on Saturday (AA AIPF cracked twice, boat over boat twice, set under straight/flush, etc). So I tried to loosed up a little today. Any input is appreciated. Red line is very nice, but I wonder if I'm going to SD too light? Or is that just the nature of playing a LAG style?



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01-12-2010 , 09:44 AM
never mind, made a bad calculation
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01-13-2010 , 03:11 AM
Thank you for the post it was most helpful in setting my goals and standards.
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01-13-2010 , 05:05 PM
Hi guys. I'm not doing great. I don't know if it's the multitabeling(I'm not hugely experienced altough I was a winner when playing poker online 2004/05) or if I have some major flaws except for the horrible blind stats which i started working on just a few thousand hands ago. I pretty much ignored blinds at first because I couldn't quite keep up making all the moves with 24 tables and I was determined to go for that (supernova).
Any help appreciated. I've went down to 12-18 tables now to try to work on my game at the same time, but as soon as possible I wanna get back to 24

Im also curious about my big losses against a raiser preflop. Is this really normal? I basically only win unopened? Together with the blinds I just can't seem to turn the curve up.

EDIT: I've checked quite a few graphs in this thread now and I seriously can't find ANYONE with worse blindstats than me. I've recently read some about it so I mainly look for advice on other parts of my game, unless you're really pro at blinds and wanna add something


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01-14-2010 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fsvo
Hi guys. I'm not doing great. I don't know if it's the multitabeling(I'm not hugely experienced altough I was a winner when playing poker online 2004/05) or if I have some major flaws except for the horrible blind stats which i started working on just a few thousand hands ago. I pretty much ignored blinds at first because I couldn't quite keep up making all the moves with 24 tables and I was determined to go for that (supernova)
i'm no expert, but this pops in my head:

are you shortstacking? because your stats are as nitty as a shortstacker (alltough they might be 8/7 not 9/7). alltough your curve would look different then.

1) have you been a winner at nl10/nl5 recently, the games 04/05 were hugely different
2) your wtsd looks very low, your w$sd is good; with this strong range running 9/7 you should have a higher wtsd.
3) loosen up in late position an tighten up in the blinds; you are cold calling the most crappy range in the worst positions ever (beeing OOP).

EP<MP<LP>Blinds

4) and why are you 12-24 tabling, when you are a looser? i multi table to INCREASE my hourly rate, but multi tabling to increase the losses is a new concept and sounds somehow -EV.
5) i think you also fold a little bit to much to cbets, 63% looks like fit or fold and can be easily exploited when other regs are playagainst you

Last edited by pokerbiker; 01-14-2010 at 09:17 AM.
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01-14-2010 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JulioCalzadilla
Hello! I know my sample sizze is samll but it really sucks to breakevene at 5nl in 7k hands when I was beating 2NL over 25k hands at 10ptbb/100
so here they are, I thank you all in advance to make this, and mphetybridge (dont know if i wrote it ok, so soryy) I will taKe your leakfinder and coaching with split next month, thanks thanks thanks go go go
julio:

the biggest problem I see with your stats is that your W$WSF is too low. This indicates that you are playing a little too weak tight, and folding hands that you could have won.

In reviewing your position stats, it appears that one of the main reasons you have a low W$WSF is because you are open limping in early position. I'm not really a fan of doing this, even at $5. I'd consider adopting a raise or fold approach to the hands you are currently limping in EP.

This is not going to be the only reason you are not winning enough flops. There are going to be other problems, such as when you cold call in position.

The other problem I saw for you is that your blind losses were just a little on the high side. You are probably cold calling from the blinds with several hands it is unprofitable to do so with.

Other than that, I think your stats evidence a pretty good game. You just need to trim the blind losses and win some more pots with a bit more post flop aggression, and a bit less preflop passivity.
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01-14-2010 , 09:25 AM
mpethybridge, you are the nuts, thanks for checking my stats, I will work in my game and try to fix those leaks, and I will be taking your program with split next month when I move to 10NL, thanks a lot

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Other than that, I think your stats evidence a pretty good game.
oh boy you make me feel great, now time to plug the leaks
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01-14-2010 , 09:27 AM
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Hey guys, quick question on BB and SB loss rates.

If I were to fold every hand, I would lose 50bb from the small blind and 100bb from the big blind, correct?
correct

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My current stats are -56bb/100 from the SB and -68bb/100 from the BB. Are those stats considered good, average, or a leak?
This is a major leak. I guarantee you it is the biggest leak you have. To plug it, start with this:

In PT3, go to filters. Go to Actions. On the preflop tab, click, called raise. add this filter.

Go to your position page. Highlight the BB. In the hands window, it will show you all the starting hands you played. Click on the $won column so that you sort with your losses at the top. The hands you are losing more than 1bb/hand with are presumptively hands that you should fold adopt a 3 bet or fold strategy with. The hands you are losing less than 1.00 bb/hand with (or winning with) are the hands you can continue calling with.

This same filter in HEM is to go to the holecards report, click filter, click edit, under main filters select BB only. Go to more filters click did cold call = true, save and close, and sort by clicking on either the money won or the bb/100 to display your losses at the top.

You have to apply some common sense--if your biggest loser is KK and you cold called with it 4 times (this actually happened in a LF session last night) obviously this is just variance.

After you have determined your unprofitable calling range in the BB, repeat for the SB. In the small blind, you can continue calling with hands that you are losing less than .5big blinds per hand, and adopt a 3 bet or fold strat with those that you are losing more than .5bb with.

Free monies in two easy steps.

mpethy giving away a very valuable fact for free, right here: If AQ shows up as unprofitable to cold call with in the blinds, this is NOT variance. The VAST majority of people I see flatting with this hand are losing with it in the blinds, and they are ALL astonished to learn that this is the case.
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01-14-2010 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fsvo
Hi guys. I'm not doing great. I don't know if it's the multitabeling(I'm not hugely experienced altough I was a winner when playing poker online 2004/05) or if I have some major flaws except for the horrible blind stats which i started working on just a few thousand hands ago. I pretty much ignored blinds at first because I couldn't quite keep up making all the moves with 24 tables and I was determined to go for that (supernova).
Any help appreciated. I've went down to 12-18 tables now to try to work on my game at the same time, but as soon as possible I wanna get back to 24

Im also curious about my big losses against a raiser preflop. Is this really normal? I basically only win unopened? Together with the blinds I just can't seem to turn the curve up.

EDIT: I've checked quite a few graphs in this thread now and I seriously can't find ANYONE with worse blindstats than me. I've recently read some about it so I mainly look for advice on other parts of my game, unless you're really pro at blinds and wanna add something

If you read the first page of the forum. You would not have ANY questions about how to improve your winrate. 90% of your damn losses is your preflop play. Open up your button WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more. And please stop limping, RAISEEE!!! Your PFR should be much closer to your VP$IP. By doing this it would automatically improve post flop play because you will be in position to fire a cbet when it is checked to you. Your redline will be less steep when you do this.

You probably should move down to lower stakes too.
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01-14-2010 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbiker
i'm no expert, but this pops in my head:

are you shortstacking? because your stats are as nitty as a shortstacker (alltough they might be 8/7 not 9/7). alltough your curve would look different then.

1) have you been a winner at nl10/nl5 recently, the games 04/05 were hugely different
2) your wtsd looks very low, your w$sd is good; with this strong range running 9/7 you should have a higher wtsd.
3) loosen up in late position an tighten up in the blinds; you are cold calling the most crappy range in the worst positions ever (beeing OOP).

EP<MP<LP>Blinds

4) and why are you 12-24 tabling, when you are a looser? i multi table to INCREASE my hourly rate, but multi tabling to increase the losses is a new concept and sounds somehow -EV.
5) i think you also fold a little bit to much to cbets, 63% looks like fit or fold and can be easily exploited when other regs are playagainst you
Thanks. No I'm not a shortstacker the reason I've been playing a 9/7 is the multitabeling. I enjoy a more looser style normally and I will loosen up a little as I decrease in tables now. I've been multitabeling until now because I assumed I was a winner and blamed some variance, although I started to realize I'm probably not at around 50k hands.

Will think about the WTSD and Cbet fold.
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01-14-2010 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by noobsickle
If you read the first page of the forum. You would not have ANY questions about how to improve your winrate. 90% of your damn losses is your preflop play. Open up your button WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more. And please stop limping, RAISEEE!!! Your PFR should be much closer to your VP$IP. By doing this it would automatically improve post flop play because you will be in position to fire a cbet when it is checked to you. Your redline will be less steep when you do this.

You probably should move down to lower stakes too.
Actually isn't my PFR pretty close to the VPIP? Do you mean 9/8 or so? I really seldom limp I feel unless it's SC/PP in a family pot or so. Anyway I will go down in tables and try to make it a 10/9 or something and also loosen my button, which I have since I posted this.

With bonuses/rakeback/MTT I'm actually $+ so I will dramatically change my play rather to win than move down, but it's a good advice

Thanks
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01-14-2010 , 10:57 AM
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Actually isn't my PFR pretty close to the VPIP? Do you mean 9/8 or so? I really seldom limp I feel unless it's SC/PP in a family pot or so. Anyway I will go down in tables and try to make it a 10/9 or something and also loosen my button, which I have since I posted this.
your vpip and pfr are already very close, but they are very low! vpip and pfr only drift apart in the blinds, which are the most horrible spots to play because you will "always" be OOP.

limping behind SCs and low PP is ok.

i'd also have suggested to move down to NL10, but at least go max for 6 tables, pay attention to the table dynamic.
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01-14-2010 , 11:59 AM
Hello
opened this account lately and had some friend ship me the moneyz and now im just on a huge ****ing downer.. i cant win a single hand and i just lost all my confidence.. im feeling like a cant beat NL2 anymore... can anyone say if my stats are ok? im feeling so bad right now it just sucks getting coolered all the time.. please check if you find some HUUUUGE leak in my stats and tell me what it is.. (( had to blow some steam.. sorry for the annoying OOLOOdownswng whines.. whatever here are my stats:



and yes i know its a small samplesize bla bla but im losing so much i just need some help...
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01-15-2010 , 07:17 AM
played a bit less than 5k hands at 05/10NL and feel I'm ready to move up, would enjoy any comments on my play. I do have a very laggish play naturally and have found I make far more profit going with it rather than trying to hold myself to tag.




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01-15-2010 , 07:27 PM
Hey Guys,

i've been playing NL25 FR for 2 Weeks now, have put in 40kHands and i think its time for a first review.

i really would appreciate comments, i will also post my interpretation of the results. btw. i know its some kind of beat/brag stuff, but if someone see's anything to improve my non-sd winnings (red line), i'd be very helpfull. i am currently loosing -9bb/100h, and every bb i save here goes 1:1 in my overall winrate.

the first thing i notice is how inconsistent i am. i had the same at NL10, and i just don't know why. i dont change my game style; but it somehow seems that i am running like god for some time, everything comes, everything works, and then its the complete opposite. for me it still just sound like a mindset problem to be honest


i think those stats look pretty much ok, 12.5/9.5 is alltough to nitty, i want to loosen up my game anyhow. but i am stealing WAY TO LESS !!!! is 29% WTSD ok?


Positional Stats
i will give myself a bigger range on button and cutoff; my SB looks very decent, my BB might be a leak? what is the benchmark here, i think i got a little bit to nitty as its a horrible spot to play.


Cold Called
this are my stats when i cold called a preflop raiser, and it seems i am doing a good job here picking the right spots - i am not spewing money when i'm calling. alltough, BU needs to loosen up; i will cold call more SC & co.


Called Behind with PP
this i found interesting, i am negativ when setmining (cold calling with pocket pair TT-). Maybe its variance or i overplay sets on F/S Boards, but it currently horribly negative. can it be NL25, there are so many weak thight nits, that stacking of sets is quite hard.



Called 3 Bets
i am still spewing when callling 3bets

Last edited by pokerbiker; 01-15-2010 at 07:36 PM.
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01-16-2010 , 12:42 AM
Hi,

I used to be a winning 25nl player over a decent sample (100k+) but took a break from poker for a few months. Started again a couple of weeks ago and thought i'd give 50nl a shot as I have a decent bankroll. I'm running pretty bad in terms of all in EV, but I don't think this will affect the stats too much. Even EV adjusted my winrate would be pretty poor anyway so I'm sure there's much room for improvement.

I know the sample size is pretty small but if anyone can offer any advice or see any obvious leaks it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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01-16-2010 , 12:55 PM
my first 2 weeks at full ring 25 nl
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01-17-2010 , 06:36 AM
I just started playing 25NL, adn have so far played 10K.
over that many hands what should be the normal amount won,
also i was hoping someone could comment on my graph.
thanks

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01-17-2010 , 06:38 AM
my bb/100 is 4.15
any help is appreciated.
tks
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01-17-2010 , 07:22 AM
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my first 2 weeks at full ring 25 nl
EV line and red line?
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01-17-2010 , 01:19 PM


Whats wrong? running 8 bigblinds/100 at nl2 but i feel alittle worried anyways :/ any comments?

Running at 13/6 and i have a few leaks that i know of but i cant really seem to plug them while playing :/
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