I'm no expert, but looks to me you are losing most of your money at showdown. Don't go to showdown with crap at uNL. If you are getting raised on the river, might be time to fold that TPTK. Generally, people with positive red lines are 3betting and check/raising, but If you don't do it to the right people at the right time your blue line will go down. Can't really tell because you haven't posted any aggression numbers.

You basically play the same hands from all positions.

I would try and drop the bottom of your range in EP, play about the same hands in MP and start adding a few hands at a time in CO and BTN.

I would start there and see how it goes.

As noobsickle said you are going to SD to much.

Filter out the hands you went to SD with in PT and lost and then filter for hands where you faced a flop or turn raise and called.
Analyze the hands and see if you could have saved some money by folding the hand. Look at the opponents who raised or c/r you, what type of players were they.

You'll start to see patterns and it will help you in the future.

First HE post. Played 7-stud and posted regularly a few years ago. Moved to limit (up to $2-4 and $3-6), then to $5-$10 sngs. Finally made move to cash games in Aug09 although 8K of these hands were Dec09. I usually play 3 tables, sometimes 2, sometimes 4.
I would say I am a fundamentally sound player who is too tight pre-flop but will go after pots post-flop. I struggle with where to open my game up pre-flop. I also think I miss a lot of river value bets. I fear I will get crushed when I move up because I am not aggressive enough.

I have no idea what a decent win-rate is at NL.

Thanks in advance for any input!

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You loose money in EP, fold some of the weaker hands like AJs-A2s,KJs-KTs,QTs+,JTs,AJo-ATo,KJo-KTo,QJo. Those do not play that well OOP

For blind play check out post 489 ITT.

Had clearly adjusted open ranges and bet sizes at hand 10k, $$$ won with showdown started to climb but still losing non-showdown and in total. Playin post-flop like crap perharps...

The only thing major I can detect is that you need to limp less pre-flop. I don't mean play more hands, but raise them more. PFR should be more than half of VP$IP.

Congratulations on your first post and welcome to 2p2 young fish. You are the reason why I am successful at 2NL. Luckily, all this can be turned around EASILY. Your preflop game is killing you. Play less hands and raise more. 21/8 (VP$IP/PFR) is... Try 20/14, 15/11, 10/8. You have "some" positional awareness, but you play hands from the button down to position 4 almost the same amount. The fact that your blue line is positive shows that you are not going to showdown with crap (which is a very good thing). Your post flop seems okay, fix your preflop. Read the FAQs and the first page of this thread and you will be on the road to success my friend.

Hello 2+2. This is my first post. I just finished my first 15k hands at uNL. Two weeks ago I won $0.62 in a WR2 freeroll on Stars. I can't afford to deposit any of my own money so this felt like a huge score. I played a few hands at $.02-.04 FL HE as that was the only ring game I could afford. As soon as I got it up over $1 I moved to $2NL.

I'll apologize now for all the shortbuying/hit-and-running I had to do to protect my newborn roll. When I finally could afford to start buying in full (around 11k hands) I learned why it's so important. Here's my graph and stats. Would I be wrong to attribute the change in my redline to my starting to buy in for the full $2?





I'd also appreciate any advice anyone has for me. I've read that the stat's can't tell a player much. I also know I haven't been playing long enough to get a representative sample. But if there's anything here that I should try to fix I'd like to hear it. Thanks.

Position looks fine. Maybe limp a little less. Yes, buying in for more effects your redline. Positive redline is caused by check/raising and 3betting in the right places. I don't think I am qualified to help you because all my profits come from my blue line. You should post the "details" section of your poker tracker, so someone can give you better feed back.

Hi

I normally play 9 tables at 50NL and 100NL. But to start the year I decided to do two things.

1) Move up to 12 tables
2) Re-assses my game which had, I admit, become way to laggy. With stats over my last 100k being at 19/15, with some deterioration in my positional play, too much 3 betting, too much calling from the blinds, too much raising easily dominated hands in early position. Ugly to be honest. I used to be a decent lag, but my stats went to hell in the last part of 2009.

Therefore I am spending January moving up through the levels again. Setting myself a 25k hands/25 buyin rule before moving up. I am hoping to be back at 50NL by the end of the month.

I require that both my winrate and stats be decent before allowing myself to move up. Just winning 25 buyins over 25k hands is not enough, just having decent stats is not enough. I must have both decent stats and 25 buyins profit, over at least 25k hands, in order to move up to the next level. I think this process will set me off well in 2010.

I was going to start at 25nl, and played a couple of hours there before deciding to start at 10nl, hence those hands. The 2nl hands were from accidentally sitting at the wrong table. I had auto-posted before I noticed so played an orbit and left.

The above isn't a bankroll requirement. I am rolled for 100NL, just a way of setting goals towards retraining myself as a 12 tabling TAG.

So, below are my stats so far. These are hands played form the 1st of Jan. As you can see I am well on my way to +50k hands this month.

Any comments, I would be happy to hear them!

David

Here are my PT details from my first 15k+ at 2NL. I'm new to PT and I haven't checked out this tab until now. I've just started reading through OP that explains these. All input and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

Hey guys, first time poster. Here are my stats for my first 10k hands at 25NL. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Oh, also

Not qualified to give advice on stats n stuff as ive only been playing 30k hands myself but judging from the above keep doin what your doin, 6bb/100 is pretty good, keep it up!

Here's my stats:



And my garph:



My main reason for posting is the worrying amount of losses from the bb. I know its normal to not be winning from the bb but i was looking up threads for comparison and losing 41bb/100 seems a bit too much. (Also the fact that in one of these threads the guy with the monkey avatar-can't think of your name!, said that as long as your button winnings cover your sb & bb losses everything's fine, hence another reason for my concern)
Since i'm not losing anywhere near as much from the SB is it possible that i just "ran bad" from the bb?
Also is this a decent number of hands to draw a conclusion from here or should i just keep playing and come when i have like 10k hands here or something?

My red line isn't very consistent too but i have an idea how to deal with that i think.

All advice much appreciated!

Maybe limp less/play tighter, you have some room to steal more from button/cutoff. Your win rate proves your success.

Wrong forum, post this in Micro Stakes NL, not full ring. Looks like you 3bet a lot from big blind. Remember post flop you will be playing OOP from the big blind.

Can you help me figure out why I suck at teh pokerz? I am currently 12 tabling 25NL, but would like to increase my w/r and decrease my spew a bit before donating to 50NL. Thanks!

The bad news is I don't have a lot of suggestions for you. Your stats look great to me. Your fold to 3 bet might be a little low. Make sure that you are not calling 3 bets to set mine unless you are really deep. You attempt to steal is obv way higher than norm, but if you are comfortable with your post flop play, that is fine. With an ats that high, I would suggest min raising from the c/o and button.

I think your aggression factor and frequency might be a little high. Are you ever check calling for value? Ex: When you know someone is on a flush draw and it misses, check the river to them, and let them bet and call.

Your vpip and pfr might be a little too close together. You might be raising in situations where you have a small pp or mid suited connector in late position w/ multiple limpers, and you are raising instead of seeing a cheap flop in position with a hand that is easy to play. Raising limpers and 3 betting preflop is good, but not always the most optimal play.

Overall very impressive for a guy w/ 5 posts

It's not 6max, HEM displays the positions UTG, UTG+1 and UTG+2 as early. MP1 and MP2 as middle.

BB is dragging you down a bit, looks like you 3bet a bunch from the BB. I would filter in HEM and see if it's these 3bet hands that are costing you money. Other than that stats look fine.

I would also compare stats for the first 16k hands to the last 16k hands and see if you changed your play or if it's just variance. SD winnings seem to go down in the second part, taking to many marginal hands to SD or just running into peoples top ranges?

Hi guys, this is my first post at 2+2 forum.

I've been played 4-6 tables at NL2 for couple months right now and I like to improve my game. Any advice will be very apreciated.

Here it's my first 15k hands and my last 15k hands. I'm already made some little improvements but I'm not satisfied at all with my Non Showdown Winnings and certainly there is a lot of leaks.

Thanks a lot!

First 15k overall




First 15k positional




First 15k graph





Last 15k overall




Last 15k positional




Last 15k graph

Welcome to the forums! Well done so far, but there is still a long way to go!

It looks like you are still limping too much. UTG, raise pocket pairs 77+, AK, AJs+. Fold everything else – KQs, AQo, 55 ect are all folds utg for now. Eventually you will add in some more hands, but while your postflop skills are developing, keeping out of marginal spots out of position will help a ton.

Your 3 bet % is 2. I would like to see 4%. As you move up, this number will need to get higher, but I think at 2NL, 4% is perfect.

Your fold to 3 bet is 50%. I like to see it in the low 70s, maybe even higher at 2NL where only 1 in 100 people are 3 betting light.

Your attempt to steal is 26%. This is an improvement from before, but still needs to be much higher. Know the two players on your left and right. On your right, know who is stealing a lot and who is raising for value. On your left know who folds to steals 90% of the time, and who punishes steals with 3 bets and call/float/bet. Know who calls to much so that you can build a pot in position with hands that want a call. Know this before you act out of late position regardless of what your cards are will make you much more profitable in late position.

Your utg range is still too loose, and button range too tight, but that will take care of itself once you implement the utg range listed above and keep working on your stealing game.

Your cbet on the flop is too high. Don’t cbet air into 4 people ever. Don’t ever do any action post flop until you ask yourself what their range is. At least do this, and you will start to realize what flops are good to cbet and which you should check. You will quickly get much better if you also ask yourself what is your plan for if they call? What part of their range continues on this board? How does my hand stack up against their range? Does the villain understand ranges, and what range are they putting me on? How can I use this to my advantage? What is the stack/pot ratio and how can I manipulate it to my advantage? If you have to cut down the number of tables you are doing to be able to think through all of these, do it. You will get quicker at it, and be able to increase the number of tables you play while thinking like this.

Your won $ at showdown is on the low side. Strive to get it to 52%+. Being low indicates that you are calling to many bets when you are beat. Go into holdem manager, and sort out hands where you called on the river and lost. See if you can identify patterns ie: guy with aggression factor of less than 1 raises me on the turn, when I have top pair top kicker, and I called his raise and river bet and lost). The low w$@sd tells me that you might now be stealing pots that nobody wants. If you are in the big blind with 87s, there are 3 limpers and the flop is 236, and it checks around, the turn is a 2, it checks around, and the river is a 2, and it checks around, you could have stolen that pot at any time you wanted to. Learn to recognize unwanted pots an scoop them up.

1.Reread the first post of this thread that goes over what stats are typically indicative of solid play and read or reread the concept of the week pertaining to the stuff I mentioned.
2.???
3. Profit!!!

*** I posted my stats in post 2543 if anyone is up for looking them over and helping me out ***

I'll give it a shot

Looks like you play a a few hands to much UTG imo. If you look at your W$SD it's only 46.6 which is a bit low b/c you should have a really tight opening range here. Do you play hands like A9-AJ suited or non-suited? Do you play hands like KJs, KTs, QJs, QTs? I would consider folding those b/c callers will have a stronger range when they call your UTG open and you will find yourself dominated a lot i.e they have AQ, you have QJ, QT on a Qxx brd.

You also have a high turn and river cbet % (I think, could be wrong here). Can't really say it's bad, but it looks a little high compared to stats I've seen. Might want to look into that a little more.

If you want to increase the wr (which isn't that bad imo), cut down on some tables imo. Do you want a high hourly or a high wr?

Thanks for looking over my stats. My UTG range is all pps about 90% of the time. Depending on table dynamics and how much people are 3 betting, I will fold 22-66, utg, utg+1. AK,AJs+, and about 30% of the time AQo and KQs, again depending on table dynamics (I looked at my stats, it is actually 70%! I will change that). I also play about 5% of my mid suited connectors from utg just to blow reg's minds at showdown . Although I don't play any of those dominated hands that you mentioned, I am going through PT3 for 22-66 utg, utg+1, and I have a vpip of 75% and am losing $0.17/hand. Is this ok, b/c my premium hands will have a higher win rate b/c my range is wider? I filtered out all pp, ajs+,aqo+, and KQs, and my utg, utg+1 vpip was 1.75%, and a slight winner with those hands.

I am reading my w$@sd at 54%, not 46%. Am I missing something? Is 54% too high? I know it sounds weird, but is there a situation where I would want to lower my w$@sd by making thinner value bets, and bluffing less ect?

I also have no idea what those should be. I am wishing I had HEM instead of PT3, b/c I think it lets you know how successful they have been in instead of just how often you do it. If I am blindly double and triple barreling too much, what other stats would that manifest itself in?

As for the w/r, I am more concerned with getting better at poker than putting in a lot of volume and getting crazy rich at 25nl. It is just I don't put in many hours, and want to have a good sized database, so that I can find the type of leaks that are only visible over a large sample and playing less tables doesn't get that type of volume quickly. I play online almost exclusively to get better at live play, where I think it is much easier to make a livable hourly rate.

Thanks a lot for analyze my stats!

I recently tighted up my ep game. I was opening limp any small pocket pair and now I'm raising or folding them. I'm not play dominated hands like KQ from ep, the problem was small pairs for set mining.

I need to improve my game at button. I'm trying to open my range for this position but I still have some issues. Should I call more raised pots with suited connectors, or just limping in multiways pots? Should I limp in multiways pot from lp with weak aces suited for flush?

I really need to work on my cbets. I tought I cbetting better in my last 15k hands, but the efficiency was down than before.

I'll read the concepts of week for some more info.

@off-topic: I read a great topic about non showdown winnings 3 days ago, and now I can't find it. did you know where I can find it?