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01-03-2015 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Roshi you've always been a slighty less than 3bb/100 winner
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
i play tight aggressive making no real OBVIOUS blunders but yet i break even or even slightly lose playing zoom. Only way to beat the games for my skill level is bum hunt reg tables like crazy. I've seen some of the 6max hands in some of these threads on 2+2 n i literally can't follow the reasoning behind half the things i see.

When people say poker is dead, doesn't mean that there isn't money to be made, just means it's hard for the majority that try as appose to how ez to use to be, or so i heard.
Not gonna even try to explain 6max hands.

Obv poker aint dead, just open the 2014 results thread on SSFR.

Zoom very beatable at 25 or 50 and at both FR and 6m. There is just not as many giveaway spots at FR cos most are solid but at 6m people are wilder but swings are brutal at times. You need a load more BIs at 6m to be comfortable.

It gets interesting at 100 and while I beat FRz I cant crack 6mz even though the pool seems beatable. Its tough when you are suddenly like $600-$800 or so in a hole and always trying to win it back. The joys of shotting..!!

Not sure what the magic formula is for you but just try to pick your spots a bit better and avoid any fps. If you don't need the cash then just enjoy the stress free micro limits
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01-03-2015 , 08:23 PM
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I didn't want to do it but I was very tempted!
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01-03-2015 , 08:59 PM
3bb winner in 25-100nl zoom pools is pretty much at the top of the ladder, so i don't get what your point is. I can get 5-10bb bum hunting 25-50nl, winrate dont make me good brah in this scenario as i struggle to break even without the jesus seating 40vpip whales while only grinding 8-10tables to think through every decision.

I give respect to someone who can 8 table zoom n be breakeven or better in 50-100nl over the random normal table reg any day of the week tbh.

p.s i have no fps, i know one of my biggest leaks i've fixed is mindlessly 4bet bluffing every random who resteals me, think i always overestimated how wide ppl 3bet in this spot in micro/small stakes & i was losing tonned in this spot i think by 4betting every blocker hand ehh.

Oh n i was folding too much postflop as well, somewhat fixed it although i've found myself doing this the other day n had to remind myself to stop trying to be a hero & play like the 6max guys i see in the goals forum

case in point:

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 2633225
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $26.38
BTN: $19.93
SB: $25.00
BB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A Q
Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) 3 6 3 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($13.25) T (2 players)
SB bets $8.09, Hero calls $8.09

River: ($29.43) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $10.41 all in, Hero calls $10.41

Final Pot: $50.25
Hero shows A Q (a pair of Threes)
SB shows K K (two pair, Kings and Threes)
SB wins $49.25
(Rake: $1.00)


^^ Don't ask hahaah
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01-03-2015 , 09:16 PM
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p.s i have no fps
you cant say that and then post that hand...
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01-03-2015 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
^^ Don't ask hahaah
Don't need to.
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01-03-2015 , 09:28 PM
Progress so far on 10NL:

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01-03-2015 , 09:34 PM
You always have a sick comeback and then leave for 6-12 months. Gl man.
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01-03-2015 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dovidiu
You always have a sick comeback and then leave for 6-12 months. Gl man.
Do you mean me?
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01-03-2015 , 10:05 PM
Yep
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01-03-2015 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dovidiu
Yep
Thanks for reminding me though . But you are right, I've been on and off here a lot. But this time it will be different. I faced some downsides of life lately which made me realise things have to change. I will not elaborate too much here so if you want to follow my progress, keep an eye on my PCG thread.
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01-03-2015 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dovidiu
You always have a sick comeback and then leave for 6-12 months. Gl man.
Honest to god been biting my tongue for the last day or two, the amount of times Misterl has made a comeback, shamelessly promoted his pcg in these threads and then left for like a long time can not be counted on one hand.

Gl though.
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01-04-2015 , 12:34 AM
Sounds like a new year new me kinda guy. I'll make a pgc thread at the start of the year to motivate me to grind and get feedback and I'll update it all the time! ... Or atleast until I hit a downswing. Similar to people who buy gym memberships at the start of the year saying they are going to get into shape.
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01-04-2015 , 05:01 AM
Dont worry Exo ...

Im bumhunting 6 tables of 6 max at $25nl too without much success so far.
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01-04-2015 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
I can get 5-10bb bum hunting 25-50nl, winrate dont make me good brah
What is the point of playing this game if 5-10bb winner does not make you good?

bumhunting is a skill just as mass multi tabling just as beating zoom. imo it is pretty funny how people rate these as one being better than the other when only the people making money get respect when they post their graphs..
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01-04-2015 , 06:09 AM
Money = money

Make it how you can in poker before its too late
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01-04-2015 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
Money = money

Make it how you can in poker before its too late
So true.
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01-04-2015 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
Money = money
Truer.
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01-04-2015 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by maaj3
What is the point of playing this game if 5-10bb winner does not make you good?

bumhunting is a skill just as mass multi tabling just as beating zoom. imo it is pretty funny how people rate these as one being better than the other when only the people making money get respect when they post their graphs..
I call bum hunting more of a work ethic type of thing more than a skill, helps your winrate but doesn't say anything about your poker fundamentals or skill cause the avg break even reg would be a 5-10bb winner if they just bum hunted. I can't call that a skill, i just can't, hence i respect my lil roshi for 3bbing zoom 8 tabling, i can't do it hence he has my respect times a million. I also lost some respect for a guy like nanonoko once i actually watched him n saw that he has had a script from long time ago cause he literally auto left everytime fish went away n auto sat when they came.
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01-04-2015 , 02:16 PM
I only 4-6 table now since I started working full time btw, (4x6m) or (4xFR + 2x6m). Rarely 8 table, but battling regz mainly cos zoom

Exo, please explain what bb is doin in this 6m hand??

Last edited by x_ROSH125_x; 01-04-2015 at 02:17 PM. Reason: Time to buy a script???
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01-04-2015 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
the avg break even reg would be a 5-10bb winner if they just bum hunted.
Are you on glue again Exo?
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01-04-2015 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
Are you on glue again Exo?
I'm a break even reg so im speaking from experience. You know how much guys at 25-50nl i see literally just play every table & don't table select at all?. Check the full tables n look at all the bad tables n see how much regs are playing, alot of them are rb grinders mass tabling n don't table select enough which imo is the primary reaso nthey are break even. I remember danutz always claiming he can't beat zoom but yet wins on reg tables & i guarantee he's a bum hunter like the rest of winners who play reg tables.
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01-04-2015 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
I'm a break even reg so im speaking from experience. You know how much guys at 25-50nl i see literally just play every table & don't table select at all?. Check the full tables n look at all the bad tables n see how much regs are playing, alot of them are rb grinders mass tabling n don't table select enough which imo is the primary reaso nthey are break even. I remember danutz always claiming he can't beat zoom but yet wins on reg tables & i guarantee he's a bum hunter like the rest of winners who play reg tables.
This may all be true, but I just don't believe an average b/e reg would be a 5 to 10bb winner simply by only table selecting. It's just not happening.
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01-04-2015 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
This may all be true, but I just don't believe an average b/e reg would be a 5 to 10bb winner simply by only table selecting. It's just not happening.
They also would prob have to cut down the # of tables playing as well, take a random guy who uses ez seat(pstars software) & just plays 24 tables of 25nl fr & break evens every month & let him 8 table n only sit tables where he has position on 40vpip fish with a mid+stack & i don't see how he isn't a 5+bb winner. To me it's really hard to 24 table n break even even 25nl without literally never table selecting, i've tried it many times n just got buried.
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01-04-2015 , 03:34 PM
Dont worry about what all the other regs are doing ... just concentrate on whats working for you and then refine it from time to time.

Ive dropped to 6 tables ... which means i should never spend more than one six max orbit on a table below a certain TST score ..

If i do not show profit on these tables over time then its my own fault.

Although i will probably blame Stars at some point.
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01-04-2015 , 03:51 PM
fwiw i think a bit of exos problem is jsut not playing enough, whatever the approach he decides to take

e.g. if you win at 10bb/100 and play 3k hands/day youll still have a losing day ~24% of the time.

drop it to 5bb/100 and it becomes 36%

at 3k hands/day = 90k hands/m
26% chance of a 15 BI dswing
28% chance of a 30k hand BE stretch.

edit: not to mention this is assuming 5bb/100,

heres a ss of 50nl zoom (6max i think)

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