*** Official 2012 Bitch/Whine/Moan/Brag Thread ****

[bleffo19]

personally at 2nl against a random with significantly less than a full stack i'd 4b pre and hope he gives me action.

min-c/r the flop is pretty awful. and if you're not comfortable 4b pre for whatever reason, what makes you so happy to raise/stack off postflop now? just coz you have an overpair? you do realise the most likely hands than call you down (AA/KK) are significantly ahead of you?

just some things to think about.

[Dave C]

Originally Posted by bleffo19

personally at 2nl against a random with significantly less than a full stack i'd 4b pre and hope he gives me action.

Thanks. About 0.8 and call a shove?

My hesitation with a hand like this is because I've probably been burned through bad luck; even at 2NL, almost every time I've got all in for anything approaching a full stack with less than AA I've been way behind. On the flip side, I don't recall getting AA all in pre against anything but short stacks. (Through about 20k hands.)

[Paul D]

I would 4bet against an unknown button man at 2nl myself. And with this guy having 1.20, a 4bet would be his entire stack. Because I would want calls from everything that isn't AA or KK. And since his stack is short I would not give him any postflop chance of play.

[Dave C]

Thanks. I always struggle with QQ and JJ (probably more so QQ). Smaller pocket pairs are easier to play when OOP facing a 3-bet.

[Dave C]

Total LOL in disbelief when I hit the replayer and saw what he called the river shove with! This much spew is far more rare at 2NL Zoom than those of you playing higher might think.

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $3.35 (167.5 bb)
SB: $2.62 (131 bb)
BB: $2.57 (128.5 bb)
UTG+1: $3.35 (167.5 bb)
UTG+2: $2.88 (144 bb)
MP1: $1.86 (93 bb)
MP2: $4.18 (209 bb)
MP3: $2.79 (139.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $2 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.06, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.15) 9 J 5 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.07, MP1 calls $0.07

Turn: ($0.29) 9 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.14, MP1 calls $0.14

River: ($0.57) Q (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.55, Hero raises to $1.73 and is all-in, MP1 calls $1.04 and is all-in

Results: $3.75 pot ($0.13 rake)
Final Board: 9 J 5 9 Q
MP1 showed K Q and lost (-$1.86 net)
Hero showed J J and won $3.62 ($1.76 net)

[Paul D]

I title this masterpiece "When Fiesty Guy 3bets me too much I shall 4bet!"

Merge - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $4.15
BTN: $5.43
Hero (SB): $4.00
BB: $7.02
UTG: $2.05
UTG+1: $5.15
MP: $3.60

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has 6 K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, BB raises to $0.44, Hero raises to $1.08, BB calls $0.64

Flop: ($2.16, 2 players) 4 5 K
Hero bets $2.92 and is all-in, BB calls $2.92

Turn: ($8.00, 2 players) 7

River: ($8.00, 2 players) 3

Spoiler:

Hero shows 6 K (Straight, Seven High) (Pre 7%, Flop 5%, Turn 18%)
BB shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 93%, Flop 95%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins $7.60

[Kreuznagel]

Hm... Why do you give advice in 50nl threads when you're playing 4nl?

[Paul D]

I play 100NL IRL?

[udbrky]

ffs you two stfu and stop posting to each other. I'm sick of the immature, whining and bitching you are doing. go stand in the corner

I just got home from a drive from hell where my GPS took me to the middle of nowhere, then stops responding, and I contemplate shooting corn stalks, and offering someone selling their house the 1k I had on me for it, and I find this crap.

Grow up, or leave, or get banned.

[Winger14]

Ugh, two hands left in the session and I run into Queens vs. Aces on a J-high board where every draw missed. Turned a winning session into a break-even one.

[MartL]

For people complaining the games are dead and people only put their money in with the nuts, check this for a hero call by the villain.


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $25.10
BTN: $25.00
SB: $31.89
BB: $23.60
UTG: $11.29
UTG+1: $23.30
UTG+2: $10.25
MP1: $13.91
Hero (MP2): $29.78

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP2 with J A
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.25) 2 A T (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $2, SB folds, MP1 calls $2

Turn: ($7.25) 8 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $3.90, MP1 calls $3.90

River: ($15.05) 2 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $7.20, MP1 calls $7.01 all in

Spoiler:

Final Pot: $29.07
MP1 shows 9c 7c (a pair of Deuces)
Hero shows Jd As (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Hero wins $27.76
(Rake: $1.31)

Then against a retarded short stacker who didnt get the chance to rat hole. Hes probably lambasting himself for not getting out of there quicker.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $24.15
BTN: $25.21
SB: $25.00
BB: $22.90
UTG: $10.35
UTG+1: $10.35
MP1: $19.43
Hero (MP2): $68.59

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP2 with T 9
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.62, Hero calls $0.62, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.62, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.21) 7 8 3 (3 players)
MP1 bets $1.58, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN folds, MP1 calls $2.92

Turn: ($11.21) J (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $6.50, MP1 calls $6.50

River: ($24.21) 6 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $8, MP1 calls $7.81 all in

Spoiler:

Final Pot: $39.83
MP1 shows Qh Qs (a pair of Queens)
Hero shows Tc 9c (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Hero wins $38.04
(Rake: $1.79)

[Dave C]

Originally Posted by MartL

For people complaining the games are dead and people only put their money in with the nuts, check this for a hero call by the villain.

If only these guys lasted longer than a couple of orbits!

[MartL]

Originally Posted by Dave C

If only these guys lasted longer than a couple of orbits!

First guy did, he kept rebuying which was great but I only got to stack him once more a few hands later as I couldnt flop against him. Obviously no value in betting the flop or turn against someone who cant fold 9 high.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13573262

MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $31.56 (126.2 bb)
CO: $23.25 (93 bb)
BTN: $10.94 (43.8 bb)
SB: $23.05 (92.2 bb)
BB: $10.25 (41 bb)
UTG+2: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (MP1): $43.63 (174.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9 Q
UTG+2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 6 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.35) 6 K 5 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.35) J (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.35) T (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $1.25, Hero raises to $6.50, UTG+2 raises to $11.75, Hero raises to $42.63 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $12.25 and is all-in

Spoiler:

Results: $50.35 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 6 K 5 J T
UTG+2 showed Q T and lost (-$25 net)
Hero showed 9 Q and won $48.35 ($23.35 net)

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I do wonder what some people are thinking when you see them sat on a table playing just against regs. Even at NL25 you can easily find 16+ tables and have a big fish at each of them.

[JH1]

Just about done with this horse****. Day after ****ing day.

[DanielLiu]

brag: zoom can be beat

Spoiler:

beat: supernova at micros. . .