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09-05-2008 , 12:53 PM

hochiminh

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,563

CO is 27/14 and I was like 11/9 (or maybe even less) because I was card dead all day long.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($37.25)
BTN ($35.85)
SB ($30.10)
Hero ($25.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 4 players) Hero is BB 7

CO raises to $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.90, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $3, SB folds

Flop: K

($9, 2 players)

HERO?

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09-05-2008 , 01:26 PM

Ksight3

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bet if villain is capable of throwing away AJ- here. (doubtful)
i give up dis flop i think unless u put him on sumthing like QQ no club

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09-05-2008 , 01:29 PM

Inf1n1tY

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,569

flop is c/f ..

for a squeeze you have to know about all the opponents in the hand. dont squeeze if SB is a loose/passive. On the other hand CO seems loose too. I dont think I would squeeze here.

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09-05-2008 , 01:32 PM

hochiminh

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I mean if I bet here, I HAVE TO call his shove as I have like 30-35% equity here (of course if he doesn't have a higher club) and pot odds are 27-30% depending on cbet size, right?

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09-05-2008 , 01:34 PM

hochiminh

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Originally Posted by Inf1n1tY

flop is c/f ..

for a squeeze you have to know about all the opponents in the hand. dont squeeze if SB is a loose/passive. On the other hand CO seems loose too. I dont think I would squeeze here.

SB is folding here 80% of the time. He's limp-folding type.

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09-05-2008 , 01:46 PM

John Bontus

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 270

Do you think CO is confident here with AJ, AQ ?
Because these are the best he could have here, sometimes AK, rarely ever AA, KK or QQ. And our line looks very strong.

I would bet/fold

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09-05-2008 , 01:55 PM

JsTs

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,250

Nothing wrong w/ c/fing bad flops after you squeeze w/ junk. This sir, is a bad flop.

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09-05-2008 , 02:03 PM

hochiminh

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Originally Posted by John Bontus

Do you think CO is confident here with AJ, AQ ?
Because these are the best he could have here, sometimes AK, rarely ever AA, KK or QQ. And our line looks very strong.

I would bet/fold

Man you can't bet/fold here. It's so negative expected value for christ sake!

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09-05-2008 , 02:07 PM

hochiminh

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Originally Posted by JsTs

Nothing wrong w/ c/fing bad flops after you squeeze w/ junk. This sir, is a bad flop.

That'll be my rule of thumb for squeezing. Ty sir. I bet 7$, called shove, he couldn't fold his KK lol. Turn was A.
Biggest pot of the day and the silliest one.

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09-05-2008 , 02:27 PM

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Navie

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c/f this flop please. i dont even know why u squeeze with such marginal hands.... and yr not exactly in position on one of them, yr range doesnt even beat his 18PF range. not even close, yr just hoping him to fold, other than that u r just no where if he calls

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09-05-2008 , 03:16 PM

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CrazyDelicious

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 183

There's nothing wrong with preflop play. However, if you do decide to squeeze, you have to take aggressive lines postflop.

Bet/fold this flop. Your flush draw has little equity against villain's shoving range.

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09-05-2008 , 03:25 PM

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Inf1n1tY

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Originally Posted by CrazyDelicious

He will only fold QQ, JJ, (TT). stabbing at this pot has no positive expectation unless he folds a K.

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09-05-2008 , 03:30 PM

#13

JsTs

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Originally Posted by CrazyDelicious

This flop smacks villains calling range. He's not folding TP, not folding a set, and not folding a decent club. I think c/f is best.

For those who think preflop is spew, I recommend checking holdem manager winrate using preflop squeezing filter. Under Cash Games -> Reports -> Filter -> Edit -> More Filters -> Did Squeeze = True. You can also go to Hole Cards section and stake away premiums (AA KK QQ JJ AK AQ) and your winrate will still be extremely high.

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09-05-2008 , 04:19 PM

#14

CrazyDelicious

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Since villain's calling the 3b IP, his range is much wider than just TT+, AJ+, especially considering that it's 4-handed. Villain's range can definitely include all pocket pairs and random suited hands like 98dd, QTdd, etc etc, all of which have no intention of continuing.

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09-05-2008 , 04:55 PM

#15

aggo

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you're running 11/9?

BET, especially if you think villain is a thinking player/ has hud/ etc etc.

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09-05-2008 , 05:02 PM

#16

BananaBalla

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Such an easy b/f and I can't believe people are saying c/f here.

Seriously, you have a 11/9 image, your range hits this flop hard and villain prob folds more than enough of the time for bet/folding to be profitable here.

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09-05-2008 , 06:57 PM

#17

weeee7

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I think villain's range is not that wide after he called the 3bet, because you're running 11/9. Or he's not paying attention whatsoever. Anyways, I think this is a c/f, you get shoved on a lot on this flop if you bet imo.

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