There is no game flow here, no history hands before. I raise and want to ship it pre with shortstack, however 3rd guy regular with nitty stats gets in way.
So can we call this? I mean although MP is with nitty stats, he is going to lose up a little when have chance like this. My hand strength is not strongest when I just call short stack shove so he could do this with weaker hands than QQ++.
What do you think guys?


PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 146.5 BB (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 8.56, 3Bet Preflop: 4.10, Hands: 8,933)
CO: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 12.44, PFR: 9.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.39, Hands: 2,262)
BTN: 25.5 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
SB: 188 BB (VPIP: 22.81, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 57)
BB: 109 BB (VPIP: 17.21, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 3.86, Hands: 10,610)
Hero (UTG): 102.5 BB
UTG+1: 108.5 BB (VPIP: 16.61, PFR: 9.65, 3Bet Preflop: 1.48, Hands: 833)
MP: 103 BB (VPIP: 12.82, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 25.5 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls 22.5 BB, MP raises to 103 BB and is all-in, Hero ?

I'd fold. This is AA/KK/AKs most of the time. You need to know that MP is capable of shoving all in like this with less than that to think of calling. JJ just doesn't play well against that range.

wait what. So it looks like MP shoves to get you out of the hand perhaps. I'd say QQ or AKs. MP prob would have 3 bet KK or AA pre...

I'd probably fold while sighing then I would face palm when MP flips over AK.

i wrote bull**** and then i edit,,, so fold its propably good yes

I'm calling. prob run into better sometime but sample is small and i found them spazzing with ATs+ enough imagining they can get you to fold and flip against BTN.

He def should not be flatting pre AA KK here

LE: table looks really really bad for 2nl standards. Table select better at a stake where you have such a big player pool.

Dovidiu

I do table select sir, but since I multitable like 20 plus, sometimes there is table left where are all nits and I need like 5 or 10 minutes to notice and leave it. This is one of those.

Fold here is probably good, I agree with you Davson. But I couldnt help myself and called.
They both had AKo and I Won pot. )

This is a mather of pot odds, and you get around 2/1 or around 30%. With those odds you are committed imo.

easy call imo.

As i said, makes little sense for him to slowplay QQ+, and people here rarely backraise premiums as opposed to the times they have suited aces or big aces trying to get you off the pot.

"This is a mather of pot odds, and you get around 2/1 or around 30%. With those odds you are committed imo. "]
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Well, in this case. Can we say that I did something wrong by calling 25.5bb shove by shortstack with 1 behind to act, because that's why I have this situation now.

Colour code your HUD. It will allow to you spot quickly which tables are no longer any good.

If it takes you 10 minutes to notice you are squabbling with nits for the blinds instead of stacking whales, you are playing too many tables.

Instead of auto-piloting 20 tables, try cutting it down to 12 tables, colour code nits, fish and whales, dump tables that are not good and use Easy Seat to keep yourself topped up. This process is very easy and quick and saves you wasting time.

Pretty sure you have to call that off. Haven't calculated anything but it looks like you probably only need like 35% equity or so. If AK is in his range you got it plus you sometimes induce worse hands to shove trying to isolate the short stack and flip for all your dead money in the pot.

Actually I totally read the OP incorrectly. After re-reading I think it's an easy call.

But it's 4:40 am here, if I AM reading it correctly this time, I think I'd shove instead of flatting pre. I'd shove first and force MP to make a decision.

Only hand that has you beat that you can put villain on is QQ.

So yeah, easy call.

Ah, the beauty of living in maryland where all these amazing options are absolutely not an option.

Sorry about that man

I hold out hope the US gets let back into the general market. I reckon they'll be like 50K battle hardened regs and 250K fish, so you know...good for everyone.