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03-25-2014 , 07:15 AM
PokerStars Hand #113782292587: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2014/03/24 17:58:17 ET
Table 'Venusia III' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: DAlejo382 ($4.77 in chips)
Seat 2: crazy_mary_8 ($5.13 in chips)
Seat 4: FOXODOR ($4.51 in chips)
Seat 5: krckamopomal ($5.18 in chips)
Seat 6: Eridion_eaf ($2.64 in chips)
Seat 7: lm0609 ($5.12 in chips)
Seat 8: M0rley178 ($4.49 in chips)
Eridion_eaf: posts small blind $0.01
lm0609: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to krckamopomal [Ac Ad]
M0rley178: folds
DAlejo382: folds
crazy_mary_8: folds
FOXODOR: raises $0.05 to $0.07
krckamopomal: raises $0.43 to $0.50
Eridion_eaf: folds
lm0609: folds
FOXODOR: calls $0.43
*** FLOP *** [9c Th Td]
Eridion_eaf leaves the table
FOXODOR: bets $3.76

Hey

This is so one of those tricky spots for me, where I am not really used to.
Here I played only a few hands against this villain vpp does not matter anyway, I saw him make some bluff few hand before with 0eq hand; led Flop then turn and bluff river with Thigh.
So here, I got aces so wanted to put bigger sizing preFlop, Because I am in position and he is probably Fish in my mind and we are deep.
He donks on this paired board
Considering that he might be on tilt because of that last hand where he didnt manage to bluff, my crazy big sizing pre-flop could piss him off too + he might be crazy maniac by default :O
Is this easy fold now?

Last edited by Vai123; 03-25-2014 at 07:22 AM.
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03-25-2014 , 11:21 AM
Never folding, lol.

You give all arguments for Villain to be maniac, yet when he spazzes you want to fold what is basically the nuts here. He's not shoving 99 here and you block AT, obv gonna lose to some Tx sometimes but you gotta take your cooler like a man.

More combos of hands that you are ahead of and spazz than hands that actually beat you = never ever fold.
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03-25-2014 , 11:36 AM
Pretty big re-raise pre but he called anyway so thats good.
Same as above post.. I'd call.

If he had 99 or even a 10x chances are he would try and slow play it or at least make smaller value bets vs a donk shove.
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03-25-2014 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dovidiu
Never folding, lol.

You give all arguments for Villain to be maniac, yet when he spazzes you want to fold what is basically the nuts here. He's not shoving 99 here and you block AT, obv gonna lose to some Tx sometimes but you gotta take your cooler like a man.

More combos of hands that you are ahead of and spazz than hands that actually beat you = never ever fold.
Agree, never folding here.

ATCWIZ
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03-25-2014 , 03:05 PM
Doesn't matter really if I block AT, this guy probably has some any two cards, not reasonable range.
I found it hard to fold, although I always feel stupid when they show Tx and I need miracle ace on turn or river :S
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03-25-2014 , 04:08 PM
You.re results oriented. Get a larger sample size and you.ll see people spazzing worse and making the call more than profitable.
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03-26-2014 , 12:15 AM
The massive flop overbet is often weak. Villain will show with air or any top pair hand (obviously not here but still) way more often than they show with the nuts.

You should snap this off. I would call here with JJ for example. If the board was JT9 I would insta-call with KJ.
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03-26-2014 , 04:29 PM
I would definitely call here, even if you don't know his range. I feel like most cards he'd call pre with you have beat except the off-chance of TT, 99.. etc.
You're gonna win this one more than not.
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03-26-2014 , 09:05 PM
You are all right. He had 79o.
But I don't know if this is good to call in general anyway. I mean peoples are nitting on stars way too much, I feel that I know that more than you because I have played this month 100k+ there, even some 60-80 VPIP fishers are very cautions postflop and when they do this overbet holy 200bb they got Tx :S and I feel like bad player calling this

Last edited by Vai123; 03-26-2014 at 09:21 PM.
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03-26-2014 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Vai123
You are all right. He had 79o.
But I don't know if this is good to call in general anyway. I mean peoples are nitting on stars way too much, I feel that I know that more than you because I have played this month 100k+ there, even some 60-80 VPIP fishers are very cautions postflop and when they do this overbet holy 200bb they got Tx :S and I feel like bad player calling this
It is definitely good to call.

I've called a zillion of these massive overbet flop open shoves, it was the nuts exactly once. The rest of the time it varies between annoying hands that still beat you (trips no kicker; 63ss for 2 pair etc.), one pairs of any strength, draws and air. TPGK is good enough to call vs. their range, let alone AA overpair.
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