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Old 07-01-2012, 05:56 AM   #1
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NL10 ATo vs 2 fish get raised on flop

Pacific No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Pacific Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



Hero (MP2) ($20.54)
CO ($17.96)
Button ($15.93)
SB ($6.81)
BB ($9.89)
UTG ($9.70)
UTG+1 ($11.05)
MP1 ($9.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, 10
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds, MP1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.35) 8, 6, 10 (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($5.35) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.67, Hero calls $2.67

River: ($10.69) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5.34, Hero folds

Total pot: $10.69

What would you have done ? Raiser is 64/32 over 47 hands, no 3bet.
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:14 AM   #2
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Re: NL10 ATo vs 2 fish get raised on flop

I probably call river, otherwise well played
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:19 AM   #3
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Re: NL10 ATo vs 2 fish get raised on flop

Bump.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:53 AM   #4
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I'm folding somewhere before the river. Either the flop or turn. We're pretty deep here and have no backdoor draws and were out of position. AT is not going to do too well in this spot whatever you do.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:14 PM   #5
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Re: NL10 ATo vs 2 fish get raised on flop

Normally, I call the min-raise on the flop and fold on the turn. Then I feel stupid for calling the min-raise, when I was going to fold to any aggression on turn and had only 5 outs that would change that line.

It's probably best to just fold on the flop unless you have history with this Villain telling you they will min-raise with a hand you beat. They'll probably let you steal on the flop most of the time, given their pre-flop range. When they push back, they usually have 2pr or better and don't know how to V-bet.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:14 PM   #6
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Re: NL10 ATo vs 2 fish get raised on flop

Do we not think folding is a bit weak considering villain is 64/32?
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:35 PM   #7
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Re: NL10 ATo vs 2 fish get raised on flop

i prolly fold ott just bc he might check a portion of his flop semibluffs ott. Plus being this mw he might be playing a bit more straightforwardly. That said he is still an aggrodonk, so i would rely on what i have seen him doing previously postflop.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:54 PM   #8
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Re: NL10 ATo vs 2 fish get raised on flop

What are his aggression numbers? Factor and/or percentage?
Absent information to the contrary you should be willing to give this up on the flop. If you know this villain has a high flop check raise percentage, or he check raises oesd on rainbow flops, or pursues this line with under pairs, then you can proceed by calling or raising the turn. Otherwise just fold the flop. You are probably beaten here on the flop with only five cards for improvement.
64/32 with no 3 bet means this guy can hit this type of flop hard in so many ways. He can have js+, sets, two pair, a strait, oesd, pair with a strait draw, tpgk, or air. How many combos of air and a pair do you beat once the q rivers? Bet/fold the flop is the best way to go vs this guy absent a better read.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:44 PM   #9
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Re: NL10 ATo vs 2 fish get raised on flop

bet turn
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