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Old 05-24-2012, 09:40 AM   #1
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NL 50: AA OTR. Value bet?

MP1 is a 19/13/5.1 [450hands]
Btn is a 60/16/2 [150 hands]


Cassava Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 1774018
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Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $25.78
SB: $63.28
BB: $54.06
UTG: $59.75
UTG+1: $55.91
MP1: $53.44
MP2: $19.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with A A
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.25, BTN calls $5.25, 2 folds, MP1 calls $3.75

Flop: ($16.50) 2 6 J (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $8.25, BTN folds, MP1 calls $8.25

Turn: ($33.00) J (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($33.00) 8 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero ?


Flopsizing is arguable but I didn't want to leave the impression I'm too comitted OTF especially with a huge whale left to act and a very agressive MP1
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:59 AM   #2
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Re: NL 50: AA OTR. Value bet?

Pre i wouldnt actually mind calling to keep the BTN in but if hes calling a 3bet anyway its by the by.

Why didnt you bet the turn? I say it time and time again that when this villain type flats a 3bet OOP their range is JJ/QQ/Ak and possibly KK for the most part. I guess the fact that the fish is in the hand and he closes the action its possible he could be wider.

As played its an easy value bet on the river but im not sure why you dont bet the turn? The Jack is a great card for us as it makes JJ less likely and probably narrows his range to sets and QQ/KK, i doubt AK sticks around.

Ps. I dont mind the flop sizing on such a dry board.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:50 AM   #3
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Re: NL 50: AA OTR. Value bet?

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Pre i wouldnt actually mind calling to keep the BTN in but if hes calling a 3bet anyway its by the by.

Why didnt you bet the turn? I say it time and time again that when this villain type flats a 3bet OOP their range is JJ/QQ/Ak and possibly KK for the most part. I guess the fact that the fish is in the hand and he closes the action its possible he could be wider.

As played its an easy value bet on the river but im not sure why you dont bet the turn? The Jack is a great card for us as it makes JJ less likely and probably narrows his range to sets and QQ/KK, i doubt AK sticks around.

Ps. I dont mind the flop sizing on such a dry board.
I thought that villain is not the type of player who flats KK pre most of the time.
And I think he's calling much wider then JJ+ too [altough he folded to 5/6 3bets] just because of Btn. (Mostly PP [88+] and some suited connectors [rarely but sometimes])
I didn't bet the turn because I'm folding out the majority of his range I beat besides of QQ. and given his high AF (5.1) he's not calling me light unless he thinks I have air enough of the time (which would just be AK, which I'm not c-betting OTF) . by checking hes more inclined to make a mistake OTR imo by calling with his midpairs which he wouldn't call OTT and I'm hardly getting 3 streets of value agaisnt QQ (and maybe even KK because he wouldn't check/call 3streets) anyway.

Besides of that there may be a small % chance he turns his showdown value into a bluff OTT which would be a disaster imo

But you're right arguing betting OTT should be better against most players most of the time!
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:46 PM   #4
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Re: NL 50: AA OTR. Value bet?

With such a low SPR, I'm trying to get stacks in post-flop. Not to do so if the villain has KK or QQ would be criminal. Pretty much the only thing the villain could have that beats us is a slowplayed JJ, which is very unlikely since there is only one combination and I can't help but feel that he would have probably bet or raised at some point post-flop if he had it.

If we had bet bigger on the flop, a turn or river shove would be much less scary, or we could just bet all three streets.
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:20 PM   #5
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Re: NL 50: AA OTR. Value bet?

not betting the turn is criminal
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:45 PM   #6
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Re: NL 50: AA OTR. Value bet?

I'm betting a lil more on the flop to setup the turn shove. Probably betting $20 on the river here though expecting to see queens.
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