Originally Posted by MartL
Pre i wouldnt actually mind calling to keep the BTN in but if hes calling a 3bet anyway its by the by.
Why didnt you bet the turn? I say it time and time again that when this villain type flats a 3bet OOP their range is JJ/QQ/Ak and possibly KK for the most part. I guess the fact that the fish is in the hand and he closes the action its possible he could be wider.
As played its an easy value bet on the river but im not sure why you dont bet the turn? The Jack is a great card for us as it makes JJ less likely and probably narrows his range to sets and QQ/KK, i doubt AK sticks around.
Ps. I dont mind the flop sizing on such a dry board.
I thought that villain is not the type of player who flats KK pre most of the time.
And I think he's calling much wider then JJ+ too [altough he folded to 5/6 3bets] just because of Btn. (Mostly PP [88+] and some suited connectors [rarely but sometimes])
I didn't bet the turn because I'm folding out the majority of his range I beat besides of QQ. and given his high AF (5.1) he's not calling me light unless he thinks I have air enough of the time (which would just be AK, which I'm not c-betting OTF) . by checking hes more inclined to make a mistake OTR imo by calling with his midpairs which he wouldn't call OTT and I'm hardly getting 3 streets of value agaisnt QQ (and maybe even KK because he wouldn't check/call 3streets) anyway.
Besides of that there may be a small % chance he turns his showdown value into a bluff OTT which would be a disaster imo
But you're right arguing betting OTT should be better against most players most of the time!