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08-23-2016 , 09:59 PM
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iPoker - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 140.6 BB
BB: 36 BB (VPIP: 28.85, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
UTG: 169.3 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
UTG+1: 121.7 BB (VPIP: 32.76, PFR: 12.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
MP: 86.9 BB (VPIP: 30.56, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BTN: 45.6 BB (VPIP: 22.03, PFR: 3.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 62)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 0.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has K A

fold, UTG+1 raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, BB raises to 36 BB, UTG+1 calls 32 BB, fold
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08-24-2016 , 01:11 AM
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This is what you get for not 3 betting !
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08-24-2016 , 01:12 AM
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OOP with AK 3 bet it up...its okay to call sometimes but this is not one of them. IF the BB wakes up with a big 4 bet after your 3bet...go on reads, but probably a fold.
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08-24-2016 , 05:55 AM
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As mentioned, 3bet pre but as played folding is fine.
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08-24-2016 , 07:24 AM
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My rational was the original raiser was a LAG, so I called hoping I would hit then I would of been able to get more out of him.

Also, it's a current weak spot of my game.. I 3bet in the blinds there and we see a flop and don't hit.. I am usually lost on how to play the rest of it.
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08-24-2016 , 09:25 AM
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Both look like fish. UTG+1 can definitely have worse. As played I shove.
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08-24-2016 , 10:56 AM
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The call isn't terrible, it's a 4x raise and you're on the button. In most cases the blinds will just fold and you'll have position with a disguised hand.

As for the squeeze, you're on the wrong side of a flip at best. He's a passive shortstacker and he's just shoved over a raise and call. His range is most likely QQ-AA/AK with maybe JJ and AQ as a longshot.
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08-24-2016 , 11:00 AM
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3 bet. As played, fold.
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08-24-2016 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
The call isn't terrible, it's a 4x raise and you're on the button. In most cases the blinds will just fold and you'll have position with a disguised hand.

As for the squeeze, you're on the wrong side of a flip at best. He's a passive shortstacker and he's just shoved over a raise and call. His range is most likely QQ-AA/AK with maybe JJ and AQ as a longshot.
Im in the SB, not the button.

Original Raiser had A10

The BB who shoved also had AK
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08-25-2016 , 07:16 AM
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3 bet. As played, fold.
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AK will miss the flop 2/3 of the time and you'll find yourself out of position in a bloated pot with two players who won't yield to aggression (passive fishy type players).
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08-26-2016 , 05:38 AM
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+1

AK will miss the flop 2/3 of the time and you'll find yourself out of position in a bloated pot with two players who won't yield to aggression (passive fishy type players).
This suggests the alternative is to call which, imo, is by far the worst option here. Fold or jam. Leaning towards a jam myself.
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08-26-2016 , 11:34 AM
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This suggests the alternative is to call which, imo, is by far the worst option here. Fold or jam. Leaning towards a jam myself.
Sorry if my post wasn't clear ..... I would definitely fold pre-flop.

Calling is definitely the worst since your OOP in a bloated pot against opponents who are sticky, which can be an uncomfortable spot.
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