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Old 11-03-2008, 04:52 PM   #1
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My First Video - 10NL

I'm Vinny. I made a video of me playing 6 tables of 10NL. It is about 30 minutes and I just need some help with my game. If anyone could watch it and give me feedback on my play I would greatly appreciate it!

I think my play needs some serious help, so please don't hold back. Tell me what I do right/wrong and need to start/stop doing.

Thanks!

Please Click here to view my video!
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:18 PM   #2
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

Just watched part of it.

- You're playing pretty LAGgy but seems to work OK for you (you also ran well and your opponents were weak).
- You're not fully positionally aware, it seems. I think you could even be a tad looser from LP. But play tighter from EP (raising KQo from EP is meh).
- You butchered one JJ hand. IIRC, you 4bet it against an 18/5. You have invested 40% of your stack in the hand and then fold to his shove. Don't like the way you played it at all.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:54 AM   #3
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

ty for the comment, did anyone else get a chance to watch it? i would appreciate some more feedback.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:05 PM   #4
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

- agree on that JJ hand, you can't put in that much money and then fold to a shove. You should make your decision when you get 3bet to either fold or 4bet/call (probably fold most of the time).

- there was this AK hand where I think you opened from the button, the SB reraised, the BB 4bet and you just call and fold the flop when you missed. That's burning money because you miss the flop so often and might even not be good if you hit. Fold pre (or shove if you think that's a good idea given the reads you have on the players involved).

You said something like "I often find myself in situations postflop where I have no idea where I stand in the hand". Here's some thoughts on how you get yourself into these spots:

- you steal and isolate very light (like I think j2 out of the SB vs an UTG limper).
- you 3bet light (a7 out of the SB vs a BTN open)

I'd suggest you tighten up significantly here, ESPECIALLY OUT OF POSITION. While there are situations where you can pull stuff like that, you shouldn't be doing it as a default play. Until you can better identify the correct spots to do so, just don't. Once you feel more comfortable postflop, you can loosen up again.

- you don't pay enough attention to stack sizes (I can't recall the hand exactly, but it involved getting yourself into a 3b pot with 76s against a half stack or something similar).

- you don't plan ahead enough.

Overall I liked your play though and the aggressive approches you took for the most part. Just don't bloat pots too much whith marginal holdings pre- or postflop if you don't know how to continue with the hand the times you get called (again: especially out of position). Generally, try to anticipate what's likely going to happen throughout the rest of the hand BEFORE you act, so you don't find yourself in spots where you have no idea what to do.


edit: you know that FT 10NL has 10% rake? It's killing your winrate ...

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Old 11-04-2008, 12:23 PM   #5
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

TYVM for your reply!

I had my worst night last night in about 3 months of play. I have been playing poker for a few years now off an on, live and online and just recently started multi-tabling. I normally play 9 tables, not 6. I only played six so the video would be clearer. I think I was nervous when I was making the video and I know that I concentrate less on the game when I am worried about commentating the video. I know this because while I was spewing chips I tried to record myself, but I started to have missed hands.

I really want to make a video of myself that shows how I actually play when I'm not worried about commentating or just nervous. I also want to be playing 9 tables while I do it. I would record myself for like an hour and give no commentary.

If anyone would watch it and give me some serious feedback, I will make it. I guess another alternative to this is, since I get nervous making the video, perhaps a sweat session would be more effective.

Please tell me if anyone can help me. Thank You!

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Old 11-04-2008, 12:36 PM   #6
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

Dude you suck at poker, really really bad. I mean seriously, just send me your money so you don't have to feel bad about losing all the time.



Just kidding around. Vinny is a good friend of mine and although I've tried to help him with his game 1.) I'm not really experienced enough to offer the best of advice, and 2.) We play considerably different styles and I feel like some of his plays are overly and unthoughtfully aggressive, but that's just not my style.

My advice is still, when facing a 5bet fold ffs.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:24 PM   #7
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

If anyone would look at my video or check out another one I will make, I would greatly appreciate the feedback!
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:03 AM   #8
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

Nobody responded to this post, so I'm re-posting it.

I had my worst night last night in about 3 months of play. I have been playing poker for a few years now off an on, live and online and just recently started multi-tabling. I normally play 9 tables, not 6. I only played six so the video would be clearer. I think I was nervous when I was making the video and I know that I concentrate less on the game when I am worried about commentating the video. I know this because while I was spewing chips I tried to record myself, but I started to have missed hands.

I really want to make a video of myself that shows how I actually play when I'm not worried about commentating or just nervous. I also want to be playing 9 tables while I do it. I would record myself for like an hour and give no commentary.

If anyone would watch it and give me some serious feedback, I will make it. I guess another alternative to this is, since I get nervous making the video, perhaps a sweat session would be more effective.

Please tell me if anyone can help me. Thank You!
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:53 AM   #9
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

2:00 Table 1 (KQo), raising from this position is marginal, probably better off folding it for now.

4:00 Table 5 (AJ) BvB, no need to bet so much on the flop. You can still get some value out of the hand if he happens to have a PP. Bet $.30 or so. $.50 will probably only get called by Ax and 4x, both small parts of his range, since there's only 2 aces left.

4:40 Table 4/5 (JTo and QTo) Facing a raise, these off-suit broadway cards aren't going to fare all that well if you just call. Especially against MP and LP opens, you aren't really playing them for implied odds value, you're playing them because you think your opponents know where the fold button is (a somewhat dangerous assumption at 10NL)

6:00 Your comment on getting it all in with TT - QQ. Download PokerStove if you don't have it. Figure out what range of hands your opponent needs to have for each one of these (TT, JJ, and QQ) to have positive equity, if you get it all in preflop. You'll probably be surprised. =P

6:30 Table 2 (AJo) Fold this in EP. Raise first in from MP if players to your left are tight. Raise first in always in LP.

10:00 Table 2 (T8o) When stealing, you need to be aware of a couple things. First is stack sizes of the blinds. You don't really want a PF raise + flop c-bet to commit someone when you have air. A way to counter that is to make your steal sizes smaller. 3x or even 2x is good when the blinds are short stacked. Second is the post-flop tendencies of the blinds. If they are calling stations, don't bother stealing light. Tighten up your BTN opening range and value bet the **** out of them. If they are tight fit-or-fold nits, then open a wide range. Definitely follow up though if you're gonna steal. I'll just say this: there are way more situations I'll c-bet after stealing than situations I'll check behind after stealing.

15:00 Table 1/3 (weak offsuit aces in the blinds vs a limper) Be careful with these weak offsuit aces. Could turn into some pretty ugly reverse implied odds. Plus I think the one hand you had the option of checking.

16:00 Table 1 (T8o) BvB. This guy is running 31/6. I'm not really interested in stealing blinds from someone who's gonna be calling me, AND I'm gonna be OOP the whole time. No problem with just folding pre. But as played, like you said...definitely betting the flop.

16:45 Table 2 (A9s) Resteal attempt against BTN open. This guy is 7/3. I'm restealing for value with my big hands, and my dominated aces I'm gonna be folding.

17:15 Table 1 (AKo) You get 4-bet by a player who is OOP. AK is no good and this is applicable to levels beyond just 10NL. Out of his entire 4-bet range, AQ or worse and QQ or worse are pretty much at the bottom. Everything else has you in bad shape (or tied in the case of AK, but I don't think this is AK that often at 10NL). Another reason to fold, you get very little value from hands that you have beat if you flop an A or K, but you'll get stacked by AA and KK if you flop an A or K.

19:00 Table 2 (JJ) People's 3-bet range at 10NL is so ridiculously small, you can probably fold this pre. Even if you are ahead of hands like AK/AQ/KQ/random ass bluff, you'll often get bet off your hand post-flop. You're better off folding pre, especially against a player who's only opening 5% of hands. 4-betting is just spew because he's only getting it in with hands that beat JJ.

29:00 Table 2 (T5o) Don't feel like you have to win every pot. Small, multi-way limped pots are not really worth bluffing at. Remember the object of NLHE, win stacks, not pots.

30:00 Table 4 (88) K high board, you get donked into for most of the pot. What does your raise accomplish? Are you ever getting called by worse on this board if you raise? Raising for information is a good way to blow a lot of money quickly. You raised to $2 and he raised back pretty quickly. So you spent $2 to find out you were beat. If you just called the flop, he's probably not ever double barreling w/o Kx, so you'll find out for $.50 what you found out on the flop for $2. But IMO, you should be folding the flop; this is gonna be Kx or better more often than not.

Overall comments: I think your aggression is good, but you need to tone it down and know when to use it. Think about ranges when you are deciding to raise or not. Think about where your value in the hand comes from, if there is value at all. And remember that raising in position for information is spew.

For bet sizing, read Split's Pooh Bah Post.

For study on getting yourself in profitable situations and avoiding situations where you aren't sure what to do, read PSA Exploiting Your Strengths, a thread I wrote recently.

Good luck!

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Old 11-06-2008, 12:53 PM   #10
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Re: My First Video - 10NL

WOW that was an amazing post! TYVM for taking the time to watch it and give me some great info.

Do you do Sweat Sessions?
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