I feel like I'm in some backassward world. In your original post, you said the villain is calling with AQ... i didn't. This is what you wrote, "most of his calling hands(TT-AA, AK, AQ) hit that board"... so you're saying that he calls with worse hands preflop.

i stipulated a very optimistic view on the first post,

some people can't fold AQ pre-flop, so some people call that,

but in average, the NL10 player folds everything but AK, KK, AA, and QQ against a 3-bettor if they're OOP and raising from UTG.

sometimes they 4-bet-fold their AQ, but few people do that.

but even if AQ calls...
you're in a coin-flip against it, just pokerstove your equity against TT-AA, AQ, AK.

also you will see a lot of flops where you will have an overpair and will be almost always dominated, if not winning a little pot when villain has A high...

by 3-betting jacks against UTG raisers you only put yourself on unprofittable situations...

3-betting JJ against UTG raises is turning your hand into a bluff.

ps: everything i said here was if villain was a reg, if the UTG raiser is a fish 30/20, then 3-bet all the night your JJ for VALUE there

I never said to 3-bet JJ here, I don't like a 3-bet here. All I said is that your post was contadictory when you said that zero, none, no worse hands call and proceeded to list off a list of hands with a majority of the combos had worse hands in terms of preflop showdown value.

but hey fwiw, i like your posts because you at least explain why you make a decision. 99% of people just say what they'll do for with no apparent reason. i just think that in a lot of your posts, you express lots of contradictory ideas... just something i've noticed.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about then I can only assume English isn't your first language.

fair enough, but since your point has nothing to do with any of the arguments I can only assume that you concede all of them.

in fact, i would go so far as to say that there's not a single topic in all of poker that you have more worthwhile to say than i do. if you picked anything to do with poker and we both gave our opinions on it, i bet what i would say would be more relevant and the forum would agree.

But continue your worthless troll tour of threads i post in.

nope will need to continue with much more to make 3b with ATC unprofitable

3.33

starting to think it may be another troll account /=

how do u figure?


this made me laugh.

risking 90c to win 30c+15c

I was doing stacking off ranges assuming that if the villain 3-bet, we'd 4-bet, the Villain would 5-bet, and then we'd need to call.

Our calling range of his 5-bet will be ~20% of our opening range.

interesting

that makes no sense.

What part makes no sense?

guys, 20 hand sample... y u no 3bet jj+ here?

hand played by itself pretty much.

^^ because 3betting JJ is suicide.

3balling JJ in 10NL FR zoom = suicide

haha, just saw this. sorry for the repeat.

OK, JJ is flat, but what kind of hands should we 3bet against UTG raise if any?

KK+