Re: JJ in position against early position raiser 10NL zoom
terrible raise pre-flop, he is never calling with worse there...
also the flop is pretty much terrible for you, most of his calling hands(TT-AA, AK, AQ) hit that board, you're in terribad shape against TT,QQ, KK, AA, AQ also in a coin-flip situation against AK, and losing to AhKh, as played i would check behind OTF and give up on almost any reasonable bet unless i hit a fullhouse
just think a little more about your 3-bets pre-flop, look at villains position, he is UTG, and his opening range should be tight there, stop smashing buttons and start thinking before your actions
Re: JJ in position against early position raiser 10NL zoom
i like to just flat with JJ to an utg raise unless I know V is wide (very rare). also don't get carried away with low flops. most villains don't raise utg and get carried away with overcards.
Re: JJ in position against early position raiser 10NL zoom
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Originally Posted by Boulet Special
care to share ur thought progress
Re flatting KK?
Villain is utg+1, his range is gonna be pretty tight. If we 3bet him we're gonna look very strong and this allows him to fold a lot of weaker hands that we can get value from by flatting. Basically by flatting we keep his range wider.
As an example, how do you feel if you're in EP with JJ or AQ and you get 3bet? What's your plan for the hand?
Re: JJ in position against early position raiser 10NL zoom
i donīt like flatting KK pre here at nl10. Itīs just too likely we will get multiway and with a value 3bet, playing the hand straight forward, we do alot better vs an unknown (with unknown players behind aswell) ev wise. we are not closing the action! i might agree tho if we have some reads on the original raiser + we are very confident postflop + the players behind are nits (which we should not expect at nl10 since most of our money comes from people calling too much at micros).
im playing this for straight value.
Re: JJ in position against early position raiser 10NL zoom
Thanks for clear explanation Rapidesh, I am learning a lot since I joined this forum.
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
terrible raise pre-flop, he is never calling with worse there...
also the flop is pretty much terrible for you, most of his calling hands(TT-AA, AK, AQ) hit that board, you're in terribad shape against TT,QQ, KK, AA, AQ also in a coin-flip situation against AK, and losing to AhKh, as played i would check behind OTF and give up on almost any reasonable bet unless i hit a fullhouse
just think a little more about your 3-bets pre-flop, look at villains position, he is UTG, and his opening range should be tight there, stop smashing buttons and start thinking before your actions
Re: JJ in position against early position raiser 10NL zoom
thanks for your contadictory post rapidesh.
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
terrible raise pre-flop, he is never calling with worse there...
also the flop is pretty much terrible for you, most of his calling hands(TT-AA, AK, AQ)
So he's NEVER calling with anything worse when we 3-bet JJ, but he is calling with TT, AK, AQ which is many more worse hands than QQ, KK, AA. does not compute.