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01-14-2017 , 10:32 AM
^^^That is exceptional play from the co in 32o hand


Finally caught some luck last night





    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37579499

    CO: $206.32 (206.3 bb)
    BTN: $100 (100 bb)
    Hero (SB): $121.15 (121.2 bb)
    BB: $120.82 (120.8 bb)
    UTG+1: $189.55 (189.6 bb)
    UTG+2: $71.37 (71.4 bb)
    MP1: $125.67 (125.7 bb)
    MP2: $103.82 (103.8 bb)
    MP3: $100.85 (100.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 A
    3 folds, MP2 raises to $2.50, MP3 calls $2.50, CO folds, BTN calls $2.50, Hero calls $2, BB calls $1.50

    Flop: ($12.50) 4 7 A (5 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets $11.88, BTN calls $11.88, Hero raises to $37.54, 2 folds, MP3 calls $25.66, BTN raises to $97.50 and is all-in, Hero raises to $118.65 and is all-in, MP3 calls $60.81 and is all-in

    Turn: ($306.70) 3 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
    River: ($306.70) 5 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $306.70 pot ($2.50 rake)
    Final Board: 4 7 A 3 5
    BTN showed 7 7 and lost (-$100 net)
    Hero showed 2 A and won $304.20 ($203.35 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-$2.50 net)
    MP2 mucked and lost (-$2.50 net)
    MP3 showed K A and lost (-$100.85 net)



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    01-14-2017 , 10:52 AM
    11 BI to NL100
    GOGOOOOOO, RAMPAGE MODE!!!
    lol!!!!
    and you guys used to make fun of my playstyle, i think i was doing fine, but my greatest problem was tilt management, i usually made great plays but tilted pretty hard between them haha

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    01-14-2017 , 10:58 AM
    It will be fun to see how your playing style matches up to players that are a lot better at dealing with it. Keep us updated.
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    01-14-2017 , 12:00 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hurtNCYDE
    It will be fun to see how your playing style matches up to players that are a lot better at dealing with it. Keep us updated.
    I want to see that too, I can't believe I'm at NL50 right now lol
    when I stopped I was really sad with poker, thought the only way to make money was with bumhunting, and i hate bumhunting. But now i see how much I got better by throwing huge bluffs on NL5-NL50, I was constantly in weird spots, which probably destroyed my winrate(3bb/100 on NL10 over 300k hands)

    even by staying 3 years out of the game, those situations and bluffs come to my mind by instinct lol.

    One thing I'm afraid of is that most of my plays are instinctive, which gives me less consistency in the long run, if I keep spazzing out like that all the time, even if the plays I made were good, they won't be repeated constantly in the future. I can't figure out my range and what's the opponent's range anymore like I used to do, so it adds another layer of variance to my game, maybe it's just luck(both poker variance and randomness variance from my instincts).

    also 6-max is the way to go for me, 9-max was a bad place to play like a ******, people usually have way tighter ranges.

    But let's see where this ends, I don't care if i lose the money, for me, those 1k dollars are the same as the $50 I had when I came back to poker
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    01-14-2017 , 12:39 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hurtNCYDE
    It will be fun to see how your playing style matches up to players that are a lot better at dealing with it. Keep us updated.
    btw, are u talking about NL50?
    Those players aren't playing well vs my style, actually i'm thinking people in NL25 are way more fishy and capable of making tougher call-downs than those at NL50
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    01-14-2017 , 01:33 PM
    lol

    PokerStars - $2 NL - Holdem - 8 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BB: $200.00
    UTG: $81.57
    UTG+1: $216.55
    MP: $208.00
    MP+1: $215.20
    Hero (CO): $200.00
    BTN: $200.00
    SB: $187.90

    SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

    Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has A J

    fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, fold, SB calls $4.00, BB calls $3.00

    Flop: ($15.00, 3 players) 9 A 6
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $8.12, SB calls $8.12, fold

    Turn: ($31.24, 2 players) A
    SB checks, Hero bets $19.88, SB calls $19.88

    River: ($71.00, 2 players) 4
    SB checks, Hero bets $35.49, SB calls $35.49

    Hero shows A J (Three of a Kind, Aces)
    (Pre 63%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
    SB mucks 4 5 (Two Pair, Aces and Fours)
    (Pre 37%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
    Hero wins $139.23
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    01-14-2017 , 01:46 PM
    nvm guy outdid himself

    PokerStars - $2 NL - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    MP+1: $200.00
    MP+2: $79.52
    CO: $361.37
    BTN: $202.00
    SB: $200.00
    Hero (BB): $262.74
    UTG: $215.00
    UTG+1: $227.69
    MP: $84.01

    SB posts SB $1.00, Hero posts BB $2.00

    Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has T A

    fold, fold, MP calls $2.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $1.00, Hero raises to $12.00, MP calls $10.00, fold

    Flop: ($26.00, 2 players) 3 A J
    Hero bets $12.84, MP calls $12.84

    Turn: ($51.68, 2 players) 2
    Hero bets $16.69, MP calls $16.69

    River: ($85.06, 2 players) 5
    Hero bets $51.03, MP calls $42.48 and is all-in

    Hero shows T A (One Pair, Aces)
    (Pre 72%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
    MP shows T 9 (High Card, Ace)
    (Pre 28%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
    Hero wins $167.27
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    01-14-2017 , 04:13 PM
    do you think that guy is high/drunk or just doesn't know the rules?

    You never really see guys like that past 2nl at zoom. Makes wish i didn't hate playing reg tables so much.
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    01-14-2017 , 04:35 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    also 6-max is the way to go for me, 9-max was a bad place to play like a ******, people usually have way tighter ranges.
    LOL

    Btw I may have asked already but is your 100NL challenge exclusively zoom?
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    01-14-2017 , 04:48 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
    LOL

    Btw I may have asked already but is your 100NL challenge exclusively zoom?
    Yes, i'll only play zoom
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    01-14-2017 , 05:20 PM
    if i'm not remembering bad that oro guy was also playing the 6max zoom pools. he had an amazing red line and an unbelievable bb/100..
    it's just incredible how seems to be the same story.
    GL an NL50*
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    01-14-2017 , 05:29 PM
    yea it's cuz he played a crazy high std deviation play style so he had monster upswings/downswings but he'd only ever come and post here for the first.
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    01-14-2017 , 07:57 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bagpuss
    yea it's cuz he played a crazy high std deviation play style so he had monster upswings/downswings
    yep.i remember it all--- it was also funny* in particular the tim oro war...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bagpuss
    but he'd only ever come and post here for the first.
    i'm saying it...it's the same story....

    Last edited by pokkerreddu; 01-14-2017 at 08:12 PM.
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    01-14-2017 , 09:12 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pokkerreddu
    yep.i remember it all--- it was also funny* in particular the tim oro war...



    i'm saying it...it's the same story....
    I don't post only when i'm winning, I posted my overall graph every single time, and will keep doing it, just see my old threads, I used to post a lot when I lost too.

    Also NL25 was really hard, had a 2bb/100 all-in EV there, luckly with rakeback i made out of it
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    01-14-2017 , 09:14 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bagpuss
    yea it's cuz he played a crazy high std deviation play style so he had monster upswings/downswings but he'd only ever come and post here for the first.
    btw, what's a normal std dev?
    mine is 97 overall, 104 on NL10 and 100 on NL25
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    01-15-2017 , 06:33 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
    I don't post only when i'm winning, I posted my overall graph every single time, and will keep doing it, just see my old threads, I used to post a lot when I lost too.

    Also NL25 was really hard, had a 2bb/100 all-in EV there, luckly with rakeback i made out of it
    I'm not saying u will not post if u lose..I'm only saying that u remember me that guy.. so don't take me wrong.. I sincerely wish u to reach your goals..I always read treads about people moving up in stakes,improving and needing a lot of time and study..it just surprise me to see a guy moving up that fast and doing this with a "rampage instinctive" mode...don't know that's kind of crazy for me but maybe I'm missing something..
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    01-15-2017 , 01:50 PM
    Makes me sick that I can't seem to win whilst regs are playing this badly.

      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37580869

      BTN: $100 (100 bb)
      SB: $109.21 (109.2 bb)
      BB: $134.39 (134.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $205.78 (205.8 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $256.20 (256.2 bb)
      MP2: $100 (100 bb)
      MP3: $110.12 (110.1 bb)
      CO: $96.01 (96 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K K
      UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 3 folds, BTN calls $2.50, 2 folds

      Flop: ($6.50) A 6 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($6.50) 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero calls $4

      River: ($14.50) K (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $9, Hero raises to $31, BTN calls $22

      Spoiler:
      Results: $76.50 pot ($2.50 rake)
      Final Board: A 6 8 5 K
      BTN mucked 2 2 and lost (-$37.50 net)
      Hero showed K K and won $74 ($36.50 net)



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      01-15-2017 , 02:01 PM
      played some 100z last night for some fun.

      double checked he is a 3 tabler before I start ob the turn.
      on the river, I was like, yeah just fold your QT/98 hand
      and literally get snap called lol



        Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37580873

        BTN: $103 (103 bb)
        SB: $100 (100 bb)
        Hero (BB): $243.98 (244 bb)
        UTG: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
        MP: $103.62 (103.6 bb)
        CO: $105.62 (105.6 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with J 8
        4 folds, SB raises to $2.67, Hero calls $1.67

        Flop: ($5.34) Q 9 7 (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $2.64, SB calls $2.64

        Turn: ($10.62) 5 (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $14.93, SB calls $14.93

        River: ($40.48) 4 (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $223.74, SB calls $79.76 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Results: $200 pot ($2.50 rake)
        Final Board: Q 9 7 5 4
        SB showed Q T and won $197.50 ($97.50 net)
        Hero showed J 8 and lost (-$100.00 net)



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        01-15-2017 , 03:07 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by ssg
        played some 100z last night for some fun.

        double checked he is a 3 tabler before I start ob the turn.
        on the river, I was like, yeah just fold your QT/98 hand
        and literally get snap called lol



          Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37580873

          BTN: $103 (103 bb)
          SB: $100 (100 bb)
          Hero (BB): $243.98 (244 bb)
          UTG: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
          MP: $103.62 (103.6 bb)
          CO: $105.62 (105.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with J 8
          4 folds, SB raises to $2.67, Hero calls $1.67

          Flop: ($5.34) Q 9 7 (2 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $2.64, SB calls $2.64

          Turn: ($10.62) 5 (2 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $14.93, SB calls $14.93

          River: ($40.48) 4 (2 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $223.74, SB calls $79.76 and is all-in

          Spoiler:
          Results: $200 pot ($2.50 rake)
          Final Board: Q 9 7 5 4
          SB showed Q T and won $197.50 ($97.50 net)
          Hero showed J 8 and lost (-$100.00 net)



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          Would 98 be a better call than QT in this spot even though it's a worse hand? Blocks 99 and the nuts (you probably don't have QQ here) and I'm assuming your value range isn't much wider than that. Or maybe I'm just a nit who doesn't go for those sicko thin value overbets.
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          01-15-2017 , 08:09 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
          Would 98 be a better call than QT in this spot even though it's a worse hand? Blocks 99 and the nuts (you probably don't have QQ here) and I'm assuming your value range isn't much wider than that. Or maybe I'm just a nit who doesn't go for those sicko thin value overbets.
          yeah I never have 99/QQ here. I would say best hand to call is Q8 combos, blocking vast majority of value(Q9/Q7 etc) and blocking nuts
          98 wouldn't really be better than QT in reality since it doesn't block that many of my 2p combos.

          weeeeeeeeee
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          01-16-2017 , 03:02 PM
          What chance have you got of stringing a few winning sessions together when your nut bluffing combos are just never going through?


            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37582602

            MP3: $68.57 (68.6 bb)
            CO: $134.50 (134.5 bb)
            BTN: $107.40 (107.4 bb)
            SB: $107.12 (107.1 bb)
            BB: $61.70 (61.7 bb)
            UTG+1: $42.10 (42.1 bb)
            Hero (UTG+2): $103.50 (103.5 bb)
            MP1: $104.93 (104.9 bb)
            MP2: $114.20 (114.2 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9 8
            UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2, BB calls $1.50

            Flop: ($12.50) 6 8 9 (5 players)
            SB bets $11.88, BB folds, Hero calls $11.88, 2 folds

            Turn: ($36.26) 6 (2 players)
            SB checks, Hero checks

            River: ($36.26) 5 (2 players)
            SB bets $18, Hero raises to $88.45, SB calls $70.45

            Spoiler:
            Results: $213.16 pot ($2.50 rake)
            Final Board: 6 8 9 6 5
            SB showed 9 6 and won $210.66 ($107.83 net)
            Hero showed 9 8 and lost (-$102.83 net)



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            01-16-2017 , 09:14 PM
            [X] 30k hands
            [ ] NL100

            8 BI to nl100

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            01-17-2017 , 07:01 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
            [X] 30k hands
            [ ] NL100

            8 BI to nl100

            I always like seeing things like this. Don't you think though that your results might drop off when you get to a stake that you end up playing a large sample in?
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            01-17-2017 , 08:00 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Husker
            I always like seeing things like this. Don't you think though that your results might drop off when you get to a stake that you end up playing a large sample in?
            it's already dropping, I took way more time to get out of NL25 than from NL10, people in NL50 are better players. I still don't have an idea of how I can beat them by a big margin, since they don't overadapt like on NL25, also they fold more and are more aggressive, so fighting it with aggression isn't the proper way. Basically I got this far by bluffing without representing anything, just random raises and triple barrels, they don't fall for that, even by watching someone with 40 VPIP they don't change much the way they play, which was one of the greatest strengths from the game I've been playing so far: I tilt people.

            also I'm on a heater of course, it's almost impossible to have a 15bb/100 winrate in the long run. let's see when the heater ends, sadly I can't put much volume because of final tests and my final project for the university

            but one thing I'm doing differently from before is that I take more time to think of the decisions, also I'm choosing to play better hands like 46s, J7s over crap like 23o, 92o lol just see the old "weakly played" threads haha
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            01-17-2017 , 08:18 AM
            people used to make fun of my style, but I think that by going in crazy situations like those are really good for the game in the long run, it's way better to try to learn, try new things than to follow the normal approach and just destroy fish while trading chips with regs

            I know I'm worse than most of the regs on NL50 zoom, so why play their game? It won't get better later, people are really good in poker nowadays, my idea is to develop a strategy that can force those players out of their comfortzone, implement donkbetting, double check raises, triple check-raises

            For me, the margins are there, but in order to achieve them, one should be able to avoid the rules of the game, to play totally wild and in undiscovered territory

            just see some old hands I played back in 2012-2013:

            http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...87/?highlight=

            http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...05/?highlight=

            http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...05/?highlight=

            http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...53/?highlight=

            http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...60/?highlight=
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