How to crush FTP Rush Tables Discussion Thread

[funkyj]

• How to crush: wait for KK+, AK
• limp shove / 3b shove AIPF.

EZ game.

[JKpoker1]

anyone have advice on how to beat .05/.10 and .10/.25 rush poker? I love rush bc it allows you to earn ftp much quicker but its a hard game. I mean I get AA cracked by sets a lot and other monster hands. Just play solid ABC tight poker or play suited connectors too to try to bust big hands such as AA and KK?

[hyperbole414]

3bet in position and open (basically) anything from CO or button as there is tons of dead money. try to see flops with PPs and catch people overplaying their AA and KK.

btw is playing for ftps really worth it if youre not winning? i mean if you like playing Rush because its more fun thats cool, but playing just for the ftps seems at least a little silly

[aixelsyd]

HEM is tracking my rush hands as it does my regular hands. Any suggestions for how to tell it to differentiate? I was thinking that if I could differentiate, then I could put up game specific stats in the notes.

[dabomb75]

make sure you have the latest rush update. My HEM separates Rush and non-rush hands

[thejuggernaut]

Depends on wht lvl you play/ what your aspiring to make hourly.

If you have rakeback and make even 1BB/100 at 25NL you do okay I think.


As for strat. Lately Ive just been stealing relentlessly, and playing super nitty in MP/EP.

And avoiding FPS...thats the # thing.
Especially for rush...you need the post it on the screen reminding you they are not playing back.

[JKpoker1]

Originally Posted by hyperbole414

3bet in position and open (basically) anything from CO or button as there is tons of dead money. try to see flops with PPs and catch people overplaying their AA and KK.

btw is playing for ftps really worth it if youre not winning? i mean if you like playing Rush because its more fun thats cool, but playing just for the ftps seems at least a little silly

I'm trying to regain iron man status and rush poker= super quick FTP's imo and I dont have a ton of time to play poker bc im a college student. And I know its beatable. Just going to tighten up my game and get nitty by waiting for pp's that hit sets and such. Also may open a little more in LP to steal blinds. I def overplay AK and AQ a little but i'm not worried about losing money in the long run bc I know I can beat small stakes if I just stick to ABC and dont try exotic plays (crazy bluffs and such).

[Ertai2]

I'm an excellent player but have had no success with Rush. Playing at 25NL. I want to put it out there that loosening up your game is not as beneficial as the logics may sound from OP. And I agreed with it at first. Stealing the blinds cause more players are going to fold with this quick fold option seems like a winning play. However Ive noticed that because players have the ability to quick fold and wait for a strong hand, if you are to make a steal attempt most often you will be re-raised or go heads up against a much stronger hand than yours (dominated) because the players who are going to call your raise or re-raise will be that very player who has been quick folding the past minute and ran into a hand he's been waiting to play.

Being able to dominate your opponent is what makes poker advantageous to the player and I find it very hard to find that element in Rush. At reg NL, A-K dominates the A-Q/J/10 or suited rag. Here in Rush, its hard to find an opponent with A-J. And if you do, he'll be cautious of being outkicked so wont pay off large bets when theres an Ace.

Playing position is also advantageous to a winning player. Being dealt a suited connector on the button if you wait to see how the table acts, by the time it gets around to you if you decide to play it you could have sifted through 4 hands (so why wait for a positional steal attempt when you may end up folding it anyway?).

Making strong laydowns is good for a winning player. Can you fold pocket Queens pre-flop to a 3-bet (re-raise)? If you do or dont at Reg NL, theres a little more reason why you may want to with Rush.

Picking up reads on your opponents thats always been a key factor since old western 5-card stud poker began (or was it Europe that invented this game? Either way, the only reads I get from opponents when playing Rush is how they bet and thats the only information you can gather. There is no more collective information).

I've found myself wanting to fold pocket Kings pre-flop much more, and flopping bottom set isnt the cats meow like it used to be.

Oh and anybody playing Rush bluff anymore?

I loved putting in 1700 hands per hour 4-tabling as it helps free up more time especially if you're a student but of the two I have to choose 1000 hands per hour 16-tabling conventional poker over Rush. Innovative concept, will definately tickle some fancys but tread carefully and give yourself some extra buy-ins to your bankroll if you're going to test it out ...

[aixelsyd]

Got HEM working for Rush now - not looking forward to when it totally solves the problem. I'm also bummed that it is now differentiating Rush from regular hands, as others using it will know my stats from Rush don't apply to regular games.

Here's my Rush strategy FWIW.

Buy-in and auto-reload at 96 BB (so folks think I'm fishy).

Rat-hole to keep fishy-looking stack.

Preflop min-raise every unopened pot (works because most folks have already left or are in a hurry to leave and don't notice bet size).

Preflop 5BB raise with PP, AQ+.

Preflop limp-3B KK, AA.

Postflop - pray.

So far so good, but it seems like coolers and suckouts abound post-flop, but I could just suck; set-miners being aggressive preflop with 33.

Maybe if I move up to where they respect my raises, the doom switch will be thrown in my favor.

[Ertai2]

Originally Posted by aixelsyd

Got HEM working for Rush now - not looking forward to when it totally solves the problem. I'm also bummed that it is now differentiating Rush from regular hands, as others using it will know my stats from Rush don't apply to regular games.

Here's my Rush strategy FWIW.

Buy-in and auto-reload at 96 BB (so folks think I'm fishy).

Rat-hole to keep fishy-looking stack.

Preflop min-raise every unopened pot (works because most folks have already left or are in a hurry to leave and don't notice bet size).

Preflop 5BB raise with PP, AQ+.

Preflop limp-3B KK, AA.

Postflop - pray.

So far so good, but it seems like coolers and suckouts abound post-flop, but I could just suck; set-miners being aggressive preflop with 33.

Maybe if I move up to where they respect my raises, the doom switch will be thrown in my favor.

Coolers and suckouts, gosh I said the same thing to myself when I tried to figure out why I lost 10 buy-ins today

It was like being a sitting duck and sitting while trying to duck

Or trying to remember the 5 D's of dodgeball. Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and ?

[stranglylucid]

DODGE!

[SuitedEights]

Originally Posted by mao

lol. no one ever bump this thread again plz.

Why not?

[jij452]

Originally Posted by aixelsyd

Got HEM working for Rush now - not looking forward to when it totally solves the problem. I'm also bummed that it is now differentiating Rush from regular hands, as others using it will know my stats from Rush don't apply to regular games.

Here's my Rush strategy FWIW.

Buy-in and auto-reload at 96 BB (so folks think I'm fishy).

Rat-hole to keep fishy-looking stack.

Preflop min-raise every unopened pot (works because most folks have already left or are in a hurry to leave and don't notice bet size).

Preflop 5BB raise with PP, AQ+.

Preflop limp-3B KK, AA.

Postflop - pray.

So far so good, but it seems like coolers and suckouts abound post-flop, but I could just suck; set-miners being aggressive preflop with 33.

Maybe if I move up to where they respect my raises, the doom switch will be thrown in my favor.

can't stop laugin'... what a strategy, man..... u must be killin' it