Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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UTG+1: $9.83
MP1: $9.48
MP2: $10.99
CO: $10.40
BTN: $19.35
SB: $9.60
BB: $20.73
Hero (UTG): $22.49

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $0.40, 4 folds, BTN calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) K 5 6 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BTN folds, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.20

Turn: ($5.25) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $4.30, Hero folds

Final Pot: $5.25
BB wins $4.90
(Rake: $0.35)

Any recommendations for this hand? When he check-raises the flop, I think 55 and 66 are possibilities along with a king or I suppose air. There weren't any likely draws he would make that move with. I felt that when I called it, it would indicate to him that I had a hand and would slow him down a bit if he had a weak king or air. I liked the board pairing on the turn as it slightly decreased the chance of him having a set but the pot sized bet scared me off based off me thinking he would realize I had a hand when I bet the flop into 2 players and then called a CR and would be unlikely to bet a king for value or fire another barrel as a bluff. However, I also realize that at this limit players do all kinds of nonsensical stuff and have seen people make ridiculous pot-sized bets at inane times. If there hadn't been another street to come, I would have called but we were pretty deep and I didn't want to commit to pot-sized river bet. What do you guys think about this spot? Maybe I should have 3-bet the flop to get a better feel for where I was in the hand.

Whatever you do do not fold. Please.

That's helpful.

Fold. You are too deep to play for stacks with TPTK. If you call here, you will have to call a big bet on the river (pot will be around $13.85), and you still only have TPTK. This is, unless you have a read that suggests villain is spewy. Which case, you can go ahead and get it in.

Wow. Okay let's be logical.

What's BB range? It's insanely wide. Any PP, SC's, S1G's, and maybe even USC's (although very rare) as well as some hands that 10NL players love and cannot fold but also don't have ballsacks to raise (KTo, A8s, KJs, etc etc). That being said, BB has an identical betting/c'ring here usually. We can't rule out anything there.

What does he have when he c/r's? Well, if he's good, 100% of his range. If he's a loose-passive, then it's K-X, 55, 66, K6, K5, 78. If he's a maniac then it's 100% too. We are losing to four hands out of those: 66, 55, 65, K6, K5. KT-KQ are certainly in his range too and represent like 4x more of his range than 56, 66, and 55 using combinatorics (i suck @ it, so someone please do it if u can ). Maybe vs. a reg you can consider it but versus unknown? Jesus have the games become this tough?

grunge post

imo, good standard fold...

without stats, reading and history I can't say where we're at...

Calling the turn means you're shoving with TPTK... is it good at 10nl? It depends by villain and we don't know anything about him...

If I know him better I might suspect that we have the same holding, because I know that he just calls a raise from the bb and play AK like that when he hit...

Whatever he's holding, TPTK or a set, the turn looks to me as he's a bit scared of the possible FD... (perhaps he pick up a FD on top of what he had... who knows )

Don't you know anything about him? Lag, maniac, tag, solid....?!?

imo 47bb is a high price to pay to find out his line... better find a better spot...

Again this is my reading with no info on villain, because on occasion I do shove with TPTK and take down pots... it's opponent dependent and situational...

Yes, reraising the flop was a good idea... lot of things could happen from there

If you want to fold can you tell me what you think villain has?

Probably a set or 2 pair? you raise UTG and your cbet gets check raised. What does villain think you have?

I dunno, but we have TPTK 200bbs deep..... LETS STACK OFF!!!!!!!!!

One time!

Well against the right villains i stack off on the flop 100%. The turn is pretty gay against those villains tho

love it

yeah, it's a satisfaction when it works... one more time

I didn't have a particular read on him at the time. I had not personally been involved in any significant pots with him and I don't watch the table much while I'm not in a hand because I have 7 other tables going on. I also considered the fairly strong possibility that he also had AK but the big turn bet represents something stronger. If he is the kind of player who will make that big a pot out of position with TPTK or less, I don't suspect he will slow down on the river (because in that case he doesn't understand pot control and probably doesn't have a clue what my calling range would be). If he has me beat, he certainly won't slow down...so I'm basically being faced with a decision for most of my stack. I only have 28 BBs committed to the pot at this point and I think he's going to be ahead enough of the time to make it not worth stacking off another 170 BBs. If he is the kind of player who plays Kx or even AK like that, you are right...I will probably find a better spot especially since we are playing deep and I have position on him.

If he's playing 10NL, chances are he's a donk.
If he's one-tabling 10NL, chances are he's a donk.
If he's a donk, chances are you have his K-X beat.

Get it in.

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That makes no sense. If you have a rule on how many BB's you need to stack off with TPTK without regard for villain's hand you're doing it wrong.