HIV this is for you need to learn some fundamentals so I'm dedicating
this article to you.
LETS GO ADVANCE 3 BETTING FOR ****ING BALLERS.
One thing people need to understand about 3 betting is that it is not
static, you dont simply 3 bet JJ+ AK+ and expect to win. You need to
know your opponents and their tendencies. The way we win at poker in
general is to MAX EV out of every spot possible. when you look down at
a hand you need to think to yourself, hmm what can I do with this can
I call? if the answer is no DONT JUST FOLD, Think can I 3 bet here? If
so why is it good to 3 bet?
Let me give you an example 14/12 reg opens in the middle position, you
look down at K3ss on the button. Your first thought should be can I
call here? The answer is usually no. Why is the answer no? Well
because it doesnt flop well in position and your going to have to fold
alot on the flop and the reg is aggressive so he will barrel you off
your equity a ton. Ok we can't call so we have to fold? Well lets ask
yourself can we 3 bet here? The answer is well....it depends..how
often does he fold to 3 bets? If he folds alot why not 3 bet? He will
usually fold right there and we win a healthy 3 big blinds when
normally we would have just folded this hand SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK life
thats 3bbs to your win rate. MONEY IN THE BANK SON if you only win at
1.5bb/100 that just doubled your win rate if you do this every 100
hands.
Well how do you know what type of hands to 3 bet? We know this by
finding out what kind of player our opponent is and adjusting to how
he plays towards 3 bets. I won't be there with you in the heat of
battle, so I won't be able to tell you oh vs him you should 3 bet this
range! But we can bulk regs and fish into what I would like to call
"ideal types". Let me define what an "ideal type" is. It is a person
who doesn't exist but we can fit people into it(if that makes sense).
So I like to break them down into "Terribad baddy reg","meh reg", and
"good reg" and fish into "Loose passive baddy fish", "maniac fish",
and "std bad fish". So ziggy is a "meh reg", but not all "meh regs"
are ziggy. So we can fit ziggy into the "meh reg" ideal type. And
thats how you should approach it, you see a reg call with something or
react in some way to a 3 bet, put him in an ideal type.
So lets get down to what makes it ideal type and how to adjust to them.
'meh regs"- These are probably the most predominated regs at 50nl and
100nl. If you don't have any read on a reg I would probably go with
this read until proven otherwise.
How do they play?- "meh regs" fold ALOT to 3 bet 68%+ they will call
TT+ some suited connectors and 4 bet QQ+ and AK+. They will fold
everything else.
How can we adjust to them?- Well lets think about what happens when we
3 bet something like TT versus them We get 4 bet off of our equity by QQ+ AK+(we can't call or 5 bet shove
over this 4 bet because we are getting it in with like 18ish equity or
something dumb, im not rly a math guy). Or we get flatted by 99+ and
value own ourself sometimes a suited connector flats and raises us off
of our equity anyway or we value bet a 8xx board for 1 or 2 streets.
But the frequency with which he is calling a suited connector is so
low that its not worth it.
Ok well we know 3 betting TT is bad, then what should we 3 bet. If we
wanna max out our ev we know that calling a raise with suited
connectors is good because they play well in position with low stack
to pot ratios, so 3 betting suited connectors is bad for the same
reason 3 betting TT is bad you get 4 bet off of your equity and when
you get called your equity is actually bad, suited connectors dont
flop big draws as much as you think OR SO SOME MATH GUY TOLD ME.
SO then what hands do I 3 bet, well big little suited hands are good.
Why are they good though? They are good because are you going to flat
K6ss to a mp open? probably not cause it just doesnt flop well enough
right. Cool so thats a reason not to call thats not a reason to 3 bet.
Ok mr annoying person who keeps asking annoying question, lets see
what happens when you 3 bet he 4 bets and you fold cool you weren't
going to call anyway because its a low hand thats not good enough to
call with anyway! What happens when he calls ok he is calling you with
JJ TT 99 and some suited connectors, so when he calls and flop comes
K37 you can ACTUAL VALUE BET K6ss for 2 or even 3 streets( I would do
b/b/b or b/b/c or b/c/b depending on board texture). He doesn't have a
King in his range so YOUR KICKER DOESNT MATTER HERE. Also you
sometimes flop flush draws or turn flush draws and can stay
aggressive. But what happens the most is he just folds and you simply take 3bbs. Obviously suited Aces are great to 3 bet as well because not
only do you have the benefit of a big little card but you also have a
blocker to AA and AK which means your going to get 4 bet off you A3ss
less often.
I just wanna put one caveat here is that 3 betting with KTss or KJss
is better, so if your not calling those hands for some reason then
obviously 3 bet them cause you can flop 2x TP. But the EV of calling
those hands is so good that you should flat them and play post flop,
but if your not flatting them then dont be stupid and fold KTss and 3
bet K2ss LOOOOOOOOL I see this alot actually and its like
DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE THINK THINK THINK. What I'm trying to say is you should be 3 betting the top of your folding range. So the bottom of my folding range is K9ss that means I'm 3 betting that always.(This is super crucial reread this 9 times if you didn't get it)
Now lets look at how bad regs play to 3 bets. Bad regs like to call all kinds of broadways, they love set mining in 3 bet pots with 22+, they love flatting sc's. They loving doing all the stupid things fish do, except they are less spewy. What does that mean FOR us. How do we play them? Well it's pretty simple DON't 3 bet Q7ss vs them thats stupid you will value cut yourself because they are calling so much. So just value bet a value range, but widen it they are calling so much and only 4 betting QQ+ and AK+, what does that mean for you? You can now take AJ and 3 bet it for value because they will call QJ KJ KQ ect.. and won't 4 bet you off of your equity often enough for it not to be +ev. Excellent that was easy, but bad regs are bad regs for a reason.
Now what you have to realize is how quickly a "meh reg" can change
into a "terribad baddy reg" if you show down down like K3ss in a 3 bet
pot they will adjust(some dont most do PAY ATTENTION stop 24 tabling). Realize that in order for a "meh reg" to become a bad reg you have to SHOW down the hand vs him, not just show it down they arent playing attention to others busy 24 tabling. Ok now they may not adjust right away so don't over adjust I know I 3 bet some regs and show down the craziest stuff, but their mind set is I will wait for a hand and then bust this agroo ass. If thats their mind set don't change ANYTHING. Don't change just because you showed down something stupid. But usually they will go ape ****, I have had the most straight forward regulars call down with KJ and call all the way down on Kxx GREAT! Easy money turning good players into fish is fun, cause they have infinite bankroll where as a fish only has 1 or 2 buyins.
Lets now talk about the fish, What do "stdfish" like to do THEY LOVE CALLING NOM NOM NOM. So what should you do widen your 3 betting range vs them. You can 3 bet KQ/ AJ for value dont be scared you can 3 bet get in JJ if they are the type of fish that would stack worse. You can 3 bet fold JJ if you want I mean if the fish is calling everything and only 4 betting AA JUST 3 BET FOLD. Maniacs are crazy so if your read is that he is crazy you can stack TT if you want just depends on the read here, I can't really help. Now vs loose passive you should 3 bet AK+ KK+ why is that because they open so rarly that thier opening range has AJ KQ ect.. smoked so they 3 bet a hand where only worse hands opened? No reason. The thing is you cant 3 bet bluff KQ either cause fish call so whatever they opened with will call your 3 bet.
Also lets talk about bet sizing I would try to make it bigger vs fish in general cause duh they call thats why they are fish by definition. Umm overall I would make 3 bets bigger oop(out of position) cause you dont wanna play in a 3 bet pot out of position and small in position. So my standard vs regs is if they open to 3bbs I 3 bet to 10bbs. If a fish opens to 3 bbs because they WHOLE RANGE is value I just make it 11bbs or 12bbs depending on their stack size. If a reg opens to 3bbs and I'm oop I just make it 11bbs and if its a fish again depending on stack size 13bbs. If regs open to 4bbs I make it 12bbs becuase 10bbs is giving them too good a price to call. Versus fish make it 14bbs or something.
Ok so I havent really talked about being ip(in position) and oop (out of position) and that changes OTHER PEOPLES ranges, you have to think about how other peoples range changes and ADJUST REMEMBER THIS (super crucial). Alot of the time fish and bad regs will have the same static range so its fine to just do the same thing as you did before. Now meh regs and especially good regs will change their calling range based on position. For instance meh regs tend to fold 99 when oop, but call it when ip. Meh regs are also more likly to call 78ss when ip cause they think position is good or something. So look at how people play and adjust if they call broadways ip dont 3 bet K2ss easy easy easy.
Now lets talk about good regs, playing good regs is hard because by definition good regs should be regs that are equal or greater skill level then you. They are good for a reason, but let me tell you a little secret about good regs THEY HATE PLAYING OOP in 3 bet pots. So they will adjust by doing 2 things either a) they will 4 bet with a decent frequency or B) They will call and c/r flops (no1 does this at 50 or 100 that often dont worry about it). Whenever I ask joopan what I would do in a spot where I'm facing a 3 bet with a mid pp he always says "just fold it dude" this coming from the spew tard kid that makes 12k every single month at 200nl.So when a Good reg calling your 3 bet he has like TT or JJ and probably isnt folding to a double barrell. What good regs will do is flat ip and play well post flop. So against good regs I would suggest 3 bet wide ip and dont 3 bet wide oop because its hard to play them post flop. I would suggest also tightening up oop vs meh regs.
Ok one last point that I want to cover for 3 betting is 3 betting Meh regs and good regs utg. People are so nitting when their utg gets 3 bet that their continuation range is literally KK+. What does that mean for us, it means that unless its a bad reg who likes to call 3 bets we probably shouldnt be 3 betting AK. But in turn that means that we should be bluffing their utg NONE STOP especially if they open like 22+. They are opening like 10% of hands and only continuing with 1%. Ok we should 3 bet bluff peoples utg, but with what hands? Well we should 3 bet bluff them with the top of our folding range, so for instance we have KQss and we rent going to call a utg open with it because we think its -ev. So calling is -ev folding is 0ev and 3 betting is +ev because they fold everythign but KK+. Great 3 bet that bad boy! Make sense?
Cool go exploit the **** of people. Being good at 3 betting means you are pay attention and adjusting to other people. If you didnt understand something I wrote Kurtsf has gotten masterful at gregonis--->english ask him hes sick good at it won a medal in my pua thread for it or something.....
Ok now I'm not your mom, so I can't make you do homework. But here is a sheet to fill out to see if you really understand what I was talking about. Its pretty cool I did this for one of my poly sci class's and it worked well. I would please ask for people not to post answers to the homework in this thread because it will spoil it for other people, so either pm each other or pm me if you want to know whether you did it right or not.
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