When you raise preflop and see a flop, there are certain scenarios that can come on the flop.
- 1) You get donked into
- You fold
- You raise
- You call
- 2) You cbet
- You get called
- Everyone folds
- You get raised
- -----You call
- -----You fold
- -----You 3bet
- 3) You check
- Someone bets, you fold
- Someone bets, you raise
- Someone bets, you call
What you do should depend on several factors:
- 1) Your opponentís tendencies.
- 2) Number of opponents
- 3) Flop texture
- 4) Your hand
- 5) Possible turn cards and how they change the texture of the board.
- 6) What you want to accomplish
This concept of the week will focus on when action comes to you on the flop and the flop betting is unopened. The choice you have is to c-bet the flop, or not to c-bet. Your decision should depend on these 5 above factors.
Most likely, youíll be c-betting 65-75% of the time. This frequency should not be determined by slowing down, or speeding up depending on what your % is, it should be based on your opponents. If they fold more, then c-bet more. If they fold less, then c-bet less with air, but value bet more.
So when you decide not to c-bet, it should be because:
- 1) The board smacks your opponentís calling range and you have air and very little fold equity
- 2) Your opponents wonít fold and you have nothing and deem it an unprofitable spot to bet
- 3) Your hand crushes the board and opponents have very little hope of outdrawing you, or for another reason, you decide not to c-bet based on your hand. For example, you do not want to get raised and lose your equity when you canít call, based on stack-size, pot-size, and your equity.
- 4) You want to induce a bluff later, or keep the pot small, or you are trying to check-raise.
For the purposes of this treatise, the only situation to be examined is when you decide to check the flop, with the idea in mind to bet on the turn as a delayed c-bet.
First of all, what are the times when you should not attempt a delayed c-bet?
- 1) You canít rep anything with it.
- 2) You canít pick up equity on the turn.
- 3) The villain floats the flop, but gives up a lot on the turn.
So for example, the board is A
If you check here, and decide to bet the turn, what are you trying to represent? Everyone knows it looks like you have a pair and hate the A. So people might call you down lighter, or theyíll call the turn, and then what?
They bet the river and you donít want to call. You especially rep less the higher the second card gets.
On the same board, you have 66. Thereís no turn card that can come that changes anything really. Most will be higher than your pair. If you check the flop, most of the time, you should check the turn on this type of board with an underpair.
Or letís say you have KQ. Bet the flop and try to win it right there. Youíre not going to improve often and would rather fold a hand like 22, 44 or so that beats you.
The lower my overcards are to the board, the less likely Iím going to delayed c-bet. This is because I canít really pick up much improvement. So if I have 9:clubs: 8:clubs: on a 6
board, I wonít often hit my pair, I donít have a good draw, donít have a backdoor flush draw, and wonít care if I get raised and have to fold. So itís a good spot to just stab and take it down.
If the villain calls the flop c-bet a lot but doesnít on the turn, you are burning money to delay c-bet. Letís say villain will call with 2 overs, any backdoor draws, and his weaker bottom pair/pocket pairs under the middle card and worse. Then he folds on the turn a ton. Against such players, you have to bet the flop to get $ from him when he still thinks he has a viable draw. A lot of the time, you should fire 3 barrels if you think he picked up a draw on the turn and it missed on the river.
So when do I like to delayed cbet?
If I have overcards and the board is low and semi-coordinated. For example 872 and I have AJ. On this board, your opponents likely arenít folding anything. Thereís too much that either has a good draw, or has at least a pair. So I usually check back. If a J+ hits on the turn, I bet. This goes back to the theory that when you raise pre, everyone puts you on AK/AQ type hands and will call on low flops with any pair, and when the big card hits, they bemoan their bad luck and muck pocket 5s. The drawier the flop, the more itís either a situation where you unload the clip, or you donít fire a bullet. This is because if someone is just calling on a wet flop and turn, they most likely donít have a strong hand, which would have raised.
When the turn doesnít help the board at all. Letís say you checked on a J
flop and the turn is a 2
If your villain checks the turn, he likely is weak or on a draw. Iíd bet the turn here a lot since heíd bet any strong hand. But if he calls the turn, you need to bet the river to fold out his weaker hands and draws that beat you.
If the turn is something like a A, K, Q, J, T, 9, 8, 7, 3 Iím checking back. You might think ďholy **** thatís a lot of cards! Yes, thatís why you checked the JT3tt flop Ė thereís a lot of hands that hit it and a lot of cards that complete their draws. If itís a heart and they check, bet, and bet a non-heart river a lot of times, since he could have picked up a flush draw on the turn.
You pick up equity on the turn. Letís say the flop is T76r and you decide itís not profitable to bet with AQ because he hits this range a decent amount. So the turn is a J and he checks. Iíll bet here because I picked up equity.
You think your opponent will float the turn and fold on the river. Remember, on the river, nobody has a draw Ė they either hit, have a previously made hand, or a busted draw. You canít get a drawing hand to call again. So if he has that FD that came in on the turn and it misses on the river, then bet the turn, and bet the river. One exception I make is if itís the A. Nobody folds the NFD, and now theyíre not folding TP. So just check or if you have a hand with decent showdown value Ė 2nd pair or so, you can block bet to get to cheaper showdown.
Also bet the turn if your opponent has a low bet vs missed cbet and low went to showdown. These people arenít playing your weakness. Theyíre not stealing pots just because you checked. Theyíre c/f because they donít have a strong hand and wonít call you. So just bet.
So when should you not pull a delayed c-bet and just check the turn, hoping to get to a cheap showdown?
- 1) The board pairs on the turn.
- 2) The card hits every draw
- 3) Your opponent wonít fold
When the board pairs, itís less likely you have a monster, because thereís fewer hand combinations that are possible to make that monster. So the flop is 9h8h3s, turn is 8c. You obviously bet the flop if youíre strong, and when the 8 hits, thereís fewer 8x hands since 2 are on the board. So youíll get called by weaker hands and itís harder to bluff.
The flop is T
and the turn is 7
If he has any kind of draw on the flop, this turn card has helped him, except for QJ w/ no hearts. He either has a straight, a flush, a pair + straight, set, etc. The only thing youíll fold is random overs he floated, or a stubborn pair, maybe. Even then, thereís no guarantee.
Your opponent just wonít fold any pair. Some people canít fold bottom pair. A lot of players bet, bet, bet vs these players, then complain because they called with bottom pair. Guess what. Bad players do that. If you know they do it, donít bluff them. Value bet them.
In conclusion, when you raise pre, sometimes youíll have the chance to check behind. Sometimes, youíll want to do that for various reasons, and one of those is that you decide a flop bet isnít the most profitable line, but a turn bet is. So you decide to pull off a delayed cbet to maximize your equity.
You do so based on the players, the board, your hand, and possible turn cards. If you bet the turn or not, depends on the turn card and how it affects the probably holdings and your perceived holding.
The drawier the board is, the most you either check or unload the clip, because most of the time youíre up against weaker hands. But donít bluff calling stations, theyíll call you down.