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07-16-2012 , 08:25 AM
Yes its a good thread. I didnt find other thread explaining stats. I dont play full ring just 6max but that doesnt matter because you can use HM stats for all games think. There should be discussing percentages too i am sure there are different styles that can work but still you should know how to interpret the percentage. VPIP and PFR is easy to imagine using Pokerstove but other stats like AF or Float i wouldnt know much what the percentage says.
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07-16-2012 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by playinbig
I mean a float like hero pfr then cb and after checkin turn villain bets. So most time its floating flop.
Is there a specific stat for this in HM? I just found bet turn percentage but this sounds like including bets without pfr and continuation bets.
I don't know if there's a specific stat for call flop in position, bet river when checked to, but there stats for facing a continuation bet, which should be able to give an idea of whether someone is calling more c-bets than they have made hands + decent draws. In HM2 they're in a section "vs continuation bet" or something like that, probably similar in HM1.
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07-16-2012 , 11:21 AM
Look in:

Bet vs. Missed CBet section of HEM
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07-16-2012 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Look in:

Bet vs. Missed CBet section of HEM
Thanks. I found Bet vs Missed CBet in position. That should be it or does this stat mean there was no CB on flop and on turn villain bets to heros check on turn after check check on flop.
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07-16-2012 , 04:01 PM
not really hard to find the meanings of each stat.... there are complete definitions of HEM stats posted on their website.

they won't have the ranges you seek.
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07-19-2012 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave C
I don't know if there's a specific stat for call flop in position, bet river when checked to, but there stats for facing a continuation bet, which should be able to give an idea of whether someone is calling more c-bets than they have made hands + decent draws. In HM2 they're in a section "vs continuation bet" or something like that, probably similar in HM1.


Maybe i didnt explain well. A float is when your opponent calls your continuationbet on flop and when you check turn opponent bets on turn.
Some players do this continously and take pots away and if an opponent does that too often you can checkraise turn or bet turn double barreling more often.
There is a stat like fold to continuationbet but i mean a stat what shows how often villain bets turn after heros preflopsraising and continuationbet and checkin turn.
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01-05-2013 , 06:27 AM
nice
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01-05-2013 , 06:30 PM
Great thread. Love mpethy's treatise on AF.
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01-21-2013 , 05:37 AM
Thanks a lot for the very informative guide.
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02-27-2013 , 01:10 AM
Thank you for posting this and the video at pokerbank on hud ninja! I'm just starting out using hem 1 and learning about each stat and how to utilize that information. I have a few questions i thought you or one of our fellow members here could answer.

-What do you mean by "sample size?"

-Can you please explain the vpip/pfr differential? I'm not 100% clear on that. How can you tell who's aggro, passive, loose etc etc.

-How can i tell if a player is positionaly aware?

Thanks!
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02-27-2013 , 02:15 AM
sample size = number of hands you have on opponent
If VPIP and PFR differ by only a few points, it indicates the villain is aggressive. If by a lot, then it indicates villain is passive.
A positionaly aware player will play looser as he gets closer to the button.
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02-27-2013 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DDAWD
sample size = number of hands you have on opponent
If VPIP and PFR differ by only a few points, it indicates the villain is aggressive. If by a lot, then it indicates villain is passive.
A positionaly aware player will play looser as he gets closer to the button.
+1

and you are very welcome for the article and video =)
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04-17-2013 , 06:22 AM
Can someone please tell me which stat they are using for Aggression Factor, I cant seem to find AF. Im using HEM2.

Thanks
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09-17-2013 , 10:55 AM
I can't find the "Fold Flop vs raise" stat in HEM 2.

Can someone tell me where to find it?
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11-11-2013 , 11:20 PM
I apologize if this have been covered already, but I cant seem to find this anywhere so I'm gonna go ahead and ask.

If you were to color code VPIP, PRF, 3B% how would you do it and what would your ranges be? Lets say green would be used to a very high fishy stat (giving us the go ahead), and yellow being solid reg stat (proceed with caution), and red being used as a low very tight range (stop now).

I think color coding could give us a quick assessment of the players deviating from the standard and would give us some quick reads to exploit.
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01-29-2014 , 11:02 PM
great thread on huds 'split' been after a thread like this for sometime.

defiantly worth a bump
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08-01-2014 , 10:39 AM
nice review
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09-24-2017 , 03:46 PM
Question.

If my opponent has a VPIP of 17 and a PFR of 15, so 17/15 does the pfr say

he raised 15% of hands preflop out of the 17% of hands he entered voluntarily?
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09-24-2017 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by track304
Question.

If my opponent has a VPIP of 17 and a PFR of 15, so 17/15 does the pfr say

he raised 15% of hands preflop out of the 17% of hands he entered voluntarily?
No he raises 15/17% of the hands he enters. Pretty much always raising
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09-24-2017 , 05:26 PM
So vpip is (calls+raises)/ totalnumber of handsplayed *100
and pfr is raises/ totaln. of handsplayed*100

This means if we play 10 hands out of which we call 2times and raise 1 time we got
for vpip (2+1)/10*100=30
and for pfr 1/10*100=10

we have 30/10

we could then proceed to imagine these stats in a jivarohud like fashion by looking at the user guide and think of a vpip 100% of hands green in this case 30% (3/10*100) which is the top range for yellow while 15% and below is red
do the same for pfr by using
number of raises/(number of calls+number of raises) in this case 1/3=0.33 or 33%

So now on the left of our hud which is vpip we see a yellow (30%) bar and on the right which is pfr we see a 33% bar which is probably between green and yellow as for pfr the colours are reversed (correct me if I'm wrong).

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09-25-2017 , 10:29 AM
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A player's attempt to steal is very important for us. It gives us an immediate idea of the player's positional awareness which is invaluable to us. So a player might be 16/13 with an ATS of 35%, and another 16/13 with an ATS of 15%. The player with the ATS of 15% is not very positionally aware, and doesn't weight hands played from LP the same way the higher 35% ATS player would. So it helps us frame lots of information, everything from their 3B range to their open raise range from MP2. Also remember that ATS is relative to a player's VPIP and PFR.

ATS is very useful in that it can help us build our 3b range. Say they steal, have a high ATS and a high Foldv3B, then we can mathematically go into Poker Stove, do some O-Range v Cont-Range calculations, and figure out an optimal 3B range, size, and frequency.
When talking about ATS split mentioned doing O-Range vs Cont-Range calculations. Does O- Range stand for checks and folds while cont- range stands for calls, bets, raises? How do you make these calculations?

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09-25-2017 , 02:12 PM
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When talking about ATS split mentioned doing O-Range vs Cont-Range calculations. Does O- Range stand for checks and folds while cont- range stands for calls, bets, raises? How do you make these calculations?
O-Range is opening range, i.e. the hands that you open the pot with pref-flop.

Not 100% about the other one in this context but it's quite likely the subset of the above that you then continue with and c-bet post-flop.
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