COTW: Becoming A LAG - Page 5 - Micro Stakes Full Ring Games

juke4 · 12-15-2009, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by King Spew

Finally!!!! A CotW that will help my bottomline......and maybe not the way you think.

I laughed.

phebous · 12-15-2009, 03:44 AM

Great Post! Very thought provoking!

My question is how does one defend against suck a LAG? Being slightly LAGish, my first instinct would be to float them a bit more. Give them the rope that is needed hang themselves. Bad LAGs will not only tie the noose but put it around their neck while tightening. If they are thinking, then they will adjust. Once this happens, you can begin 3betting them a bit more either as a bluff or value. Do you have any further input? Also what range in what pos do you use when you are lagging it up?

d_smith77 · 12-15-2009, 05:01 AM

very nice post

KrazyIgnatz · 12-15-2009, 05:31 AM

Split u tha man

Great post

imfromsweden · 12-15-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by zachvac

That makes no sense at all. If your range is wider and opponents are paying attention then postflop you need to bluff with less of your range, and if your opponents aren't paying attention you should be bluffing a lot either way. Basically it sounds like you weren't playing the TAG style optimally and playing LAG just exposed that weakness.

hmm yeah you might have a point... I was quite bad at the time.

***Split*** · 12-15-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly-fisher

This is absolute gold. It took me a while to figure this during the TAG-->sLAG-->LAG transition.

thank you

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Originally Posted by Mike B

Thanks, great article. I've been looking forward to this from you.

Since I've moved up to NL50 I've been loosening up a lot without even really thinking about it. I was running 12/9 all my poker life but the past few weeks I've been like 17/14. A (bad)reg even stacked off with A8o vs. my AK preflop BvB today lol

Your article pretty much sums up all of the stuff I've been trying to figure out. Thanks again.

glad you enjoyed it!

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Originally Posted by OoLethaLoO

*Split* i seriously love everything you post and especially your vids. this post is great man, ive been cultivating my inner LAG for a while now and i feel like im just starting to grasp it well, thank you for helping with that!

no problem...thanks for liking my stuff =)

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Originally Posted by DiggaWasgeht?

The positional heatmap is gold.

What people learn out of this is that a LAG does not necessarily play more hands from EP than a TAG. This is very, very important.

Your COTW are incredible good, thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.

def agree on the importance of that misconception. glad you enjoyed it!

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Originally Posted by phebous

Great Post! Very thought provoking!

My question is how does one defend against suck a LAG? Being slightly LAGish, my first instinct would be to float them a bit more. Give them the rope that is needed hang themselves. Bad LAGs will not only tie the noose but put it around their neck while tightening. If they are thinking, then they will adjust. Once this happens, you can begin 3betting them a bit more either as a bluff or value. Do you have any further input? Also what range in what pos do you use when you are lagging it up?

there are lots of ways...but i am not going to give you a playbook to play against me =)

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Originally Posted by d_smith77

very nice post

thnk you sir

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Originally Posted by KrazyIgnatz

Split u tha man

Great post

thnk you...you are too =)

Ali Gator · 12-15-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by *Split*

also, i play LAG so i do not HAVE TO hit hands. a TAG strategy is based around IO. today's games offer less IO imo. Yes it is super profitable when you hit a big hand against a fish, or when you hit a good-side cooler against a TAG...but these are few and far between and there are lots of profitable opportunities in the middle

How do you view double and triple barreling turn and river when you have A high or a MPGK in position. Do you shut down after making the cbet, or do you continue showing strength.

***Split*** · 12-15-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ali Gator

How do you view double and triple barreling turn and river when you have A high or a MPGK in position. Do you shut down after making the cbet, or do you continue showing strength.

super dependent on the player type im against, how they tend to continue, and how their range changes based on pot geometry. (aka, not nearly enough info for me to be able to give you a worthwhile answer =) )

MartinK1979 · 12-15-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by *Split*

i would say martin is NOT a LAG. in the last screen shot i saw his stats were 20/13. i would say he has the "L" part of LAG right...but he forgot the whole "AG" thing. And LAG will ruin those with leaks in their postflop game...as i mentioned a few times in the article. Martin has leaks, martin will sink. (no offense Martin =( )

And yes, most LAG's fail because they overdo the "AG" part and forget to think about their opponent's ranges and c-ranges while making plays...and go for value so think it is -EV

This is my stats from last session.I was trying really focus on the "AG" party what you mentioned...

I know I have still leaks postflop and dont valuebet my big hands strong enough...
Its still a little gap between my VIP and PFR there..
Maybe I can push it to 18 PFR but I really have to focus on that and its not more autopilot like TAG...

My stealnumber was 7% higher than usually and I was playing 35% hands from BTN..

phebous · 12-15-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by *Split*

there are lots of ways...but i am not going to give you a playbook to play against me =)

m_hood115 · 12-15-2009, 01:56 PM

I don't understand why you are trying to work on becoming LAG martin, when your TAG game has leaks in it? Playing a Lag style is just going to focus more on those leaks, and you are going to bleed money.

Good post Splt, well done as always.

***Split*** · 12-15-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by phebous

ill give you a hint...good LAGs have thresholds as well

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Originally Posted by m_hood115

I don't understand why you are trying to work on becoming LAG martin, when your TAG game has leaks in it? Playing a Lag style is just going to focus more on those leaks, and you are going to bleed money.

Good post Splt, well done as always.

+1, and thank you sir =)

giddieup12 · 12-15-2009, 03:11 PM

Split,
Great post. Enjoyed it and liked your sound reasoning. Well done sir.

***Split*** · 12-15-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by giddieup12

Split,
Great post. Enjoyed it and liked your sound reasoning. Well done sir.

wtf is this? no insults? no PTR screenshots? this is madness =)

glad you enjoyed it sir

Dude-Bun · 12-15-2009, 04:23 PM

split do u also play 6max/HU nowadays?