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Old 01-22-2010, 07:51 PM   #176
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^^Whoah that sounds awesome!
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:05 AM   #177
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after having a mechanic in my homegame, i fully support that "anti-cheating" COTW
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Old 01-25-2010, 12:11 AM   #178
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Makes sense with the expanded uNL forum mandate.
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:03 AM   #179
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Perhaps one on ranging opponents? And how these ranges are affected based on board texture, their actions, and our own actions?
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:01 PM   #180
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OK, I'll add the cotw on catching cheats.

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Obviously breathweapon is late. He asked me to push back his deadline a "few days."
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:15 PM   #181
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Perhaps one on ranging opponents? And how these ranges are affected based on board texture, their actions, and our own actions?
hand reading? more or less the same thing, unless i have misunderstood?
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:21 PM   #182
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Re: ****Concept of the Week" Schedule and Table of Contents****

what about a concept 'multi tabling' how to play numerous tables effectively. Software to use and how it makes multi tabling easier.

Are there any videos of people multi tabling ?? That shows them at work, using table ninja etc ??
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:46 PM   #183
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what about a concept 'multi tabling' how to play numerous tables effectively. Software to use and how it makes multi tabling easier.

Are there any videos of people multi tabling ?? That shows them at work, using table ninja etc ??
One word....Belok
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:59 PM   #184
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TYVM. You saved me Alot of time, much appreciated. I just printed the whole thread.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:13 AM   #185
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Re: ****Concept of the Week" Schedule and Table of Contents****

A suggestion for something I might find useful - but perhaps others won't or there is something somewhere else.

I'd like to know some good/standard ways to sum up situations in notes. I've been taking notes more actively and there are some occasions I struggle to find the correct phrases/shortcuts/language. It can result in being distracted too long from the action on other tables and also in rather wordy or confused notes that are hard to interpret later. I could just mark the hands and write the note after but I'd rather be thinking about the lines and ranges of a villain while I'm actually sat and playing with them rather than mindlessly clicking "I'll think about that one later".

The kind of things I'm thinking about is when a villain plays AKs and the flop is 2tone but matches or doesn't match the suit of their hand, all the c/c b/f type terminology, good short phrases for describing wet boards with str8 or flush possibilities or both. It could go further and talk about the kind of things we should be noting and the detail we can ignore.

I'm sure I have worse but found these in a quick scan of my exported notes

"check/ call check-raise in limped pot on 2tone board with air. small bet on turn as board flushes. shove river and show to fold. had 0 equity"

"donklead Kxx monotone flop with AK no matching suits. much bigger bet on non-suit turn after being called on flop. called river bet after checking"

wtf?!
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:37 PM   #186
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A suggestion for something I might find useful - but perhaps others won't or there is something somewhere else.

I'd like to know some good/standard ways to sum up situations in notes. I've been taking notes more actively and there are some occasions I struggle to find the correct phrases/shortcuts/language. It can result in being distracted too long from the action on other tables and also in rather wordy or confused notes that are hard to interpret later. I could just mark the hands and write the note after but I'd rather be thinking about the lines and ranges of a villain while I'm actually sat and playing with them rather than mindlessly clicking "I'll think about that one later".

The kind of things I'm thinking about is when a villain plays AKs and the flop is 2tone but matches or doesn't match the suit of their hand, all the c/c b/f type terminology, good short phrases for describing wet boards with str8 or flush possibilities or both. It could go further and talk about the kind of things we should be noting and the detail we can ignore.

I'm sure I have worse but found these in a quick scan of my exported notes

"check/ call check-raise in limped pot on 2tone board with air. small bet on turn as board flushes. shove river and show to fold. had 0 equity"

"donklead Kxx monotone flop with AK no matching suits. much bigger bet on non-suit turn after being called on flop. called river bet after checking"

wtf?!
idk i like those notes, am i wierd?

do you want stuff that's quicker to type, or quicker to read?

anyway, some stuff about note-taking + abbreviations in this vid

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Here is the info referred to in the video -

Note Taking - Abbreviations

CDL - Calls down light postflop
LRR - Limp reraises preflop
BLF - Big Bluffer
BISK - Bluffs if shown weakness postflop
BRISK - Bluffs river if shown weakness
FLT - Floats
3BL - 3 bets light
TRP - Trappy postflop (checkraises, floats, etc)
SOL - Stacks off light
CR - Check raises frequently
DNB - Do not bluff
FTDB - Folds to double barrel
OBP - Overplays big pairs
SLW - Slowplays big hands/sets
RSS - Regular spite syndrome
VBT - Value bets thinly
DBS - Donk bets strong
DBW - Donk bets weak
MRS - Minraises flop strong
MRW - Minraises flop weak
maybe you could use those, or devise your own similar system, or something?

or, this post describes a program that, iirc, allows you to use hotkeys to paste predefined pieces of text into the notes?

edit: this feels a little off-topic tbh, so i wouldn't object to a mod moving it to the bottom of sammy's COTW on note-taking/reviews?
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:52 PM   #187
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Thanks. That looks like some of the things I was after.. I'll check out the vid later.
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Old 01-27-2010, 02:18 PM   #188
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hand reading? more or less the same thing, unless i have misunderstood?
Well, I was thinking about going a little more in depth than that post did. Especially in terms of postflop ranging. Just some of the more nuts and bolts of it. Perhaps some examples.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:00 PM   #189
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Re: ****Concept of the Week" Schedule and Table of Contents****

Hey mpethy,

Put me down for moving up and moving down stakes. Having moved from 5nl to 100nl, back to 5nl and worked back to 25nl (and would be at 50nl again if I wasn't running -1.5ptBB/100 in all-in EV this month, won't mention it takes an act of congress for me to hit a draw) I have some experience in this.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:15 PM   #190
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Re: ****Concept of the Week" Schedule and Table of Contents****

Just wanted to throw this in out in the public. Sent mpethy a pm:

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I've been thinking a little about COTW's, and I came up with a possible topic. Let me know if you think its good enough for a COTW:

Pre-Flop raising.

More specifically why it is that 4bb+1bb is standard (The maths behind it, of not giving the correct pot odds to the players behind), and how this differs if there is more than X limpers.

Then what I think is a little interesting and might turn out to be the main topic: how would PF raising and the game overall change with varied blind structures. For instance 25NL where BB is not 2 small blinds but 2.5. Or in some games BB=SB. Etc.

Do you think that would make a good COTW?
Mpethy gave it a prelimenary green light, what do you guys think?

Edit: I have to admit the version that mpethy got had a few more mistakes than this one

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Old 01-27-2010, 07:53 PM   #191
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Just wanted to throw this in out in the public. Sent mpethy a pm:



Mpethy gave it a prelimenary green light, what do you guys think?

Edit: I have to admit the version that mpethy got had a few more mistakes than this one

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kind of an old article from me (it was my poohbah...but easier for me to find the article off my site, lol): http://www.splitsuit.com/betsizing

i think a more updated and indepth look at this stuff would be good stuff. though i wouldnt tackle this if you dont feel confident with the math =)
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:54 PM   #192
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Just wanted to throw this in out in the public. Sent mpethy a pm:



Mpethy gave it a prelimenary green light, what do you guys think?

Edit: I have to admit the version that mpethy got had a few more mistakes than this one

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thanks for the gentle reminder. I need to update the schedule again already. super busy these days, but I will get to it.
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:31 AM   #193
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Re: ****Concept of the Week" Schedule and Table of Contents****

A suggestion for a possible COTW.

There is a lot of articles and threads out there on the topic of moving up stakes. However I have found very little on the topic of moving up in volume/hours played. About how to handle and plan the day, sessions, advanced stop-loss, win-loss, etc. Similarly there is a lot on how to increase the amount of tables played, but not time. Basically all my 1-2.5 hour sessions are pretty much well in the positives, but when it gets to 4.5+ hours, its all BE or negative.

What do you think?
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:15 AM   #194
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A suggestion for a possible COTW.

There is a lot of articles and threads out there on the topic of moving up stakes. However I have found very little on the topic of moving up in volume/hours played. About how to handle and plan the day, sessions, advanced stop-loss, win-loss, etc. Similarly there is a lot on how to increase the amount of tables played, but not time. Basically all my 1-2.5 hour sessions are pretty much well in the positives, but when it gets to 4.5+ hours, its all BE or negative.

What do you think?
I love the idea. That would help me, for sure!
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:20 PM   #195
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Re: ****Concept of the Week" Schedule and Table of Contents****

Hey mpethy & peanut gallery, can I do a thread on overbets, or deep overbetting? Can I tentatively have April 20th or any day around there?

Its a fairly weak topic, but thats because I don't think many people really know the great value in overbetting. Hell, I forget about it fairly often myself. Last couple of days I've been saving all of my overbet HH to a Notepad file, and I should have plenty of examples by the middle of April.

Here's a sampling of overbetting from the past few days:

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
UTG+1: $43.00
MP1: $88.00
MP2: $41.05
CO: $93.80
BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $119.60
BB: $107.10
UTG: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with XX
4 folds, CO raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, CO calls $7

Flop: ($19.00) 3 J 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $26, CO raises to $52, Hero raises to $110.60 all in, CO calls $32.80 all in

Final Pot: $188.60
CO shows T T



Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em $0.20 Ante - 7 players
SB: $175.85
BB: $113.95
Hero (UTG): $208.95
UTG+1: $106.55
MP: $207.05
CO: $200.00
BTN: $189.75

Pre Flop: ($2.90) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, MP calls $4, 4 folds

Flop: ($10.90) 5 J 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, MP raises to $44, Hero raises to $204.75 all in, MP calls $158.85 all in

Final Pot: $416.60
MP shows 8 6


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
SB: $104.50
BB: $100.00
UTG: $172.50
Hero (UTG+1): $146.35
UTG+2: $100.00
MP1: $199.95
MP2: $123.05
CO: $149.80
BTN: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with XX
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($12.00) 8 J 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $19, MP2 calls $19, CO folds

Final Pot: $251.10
MP2 mucks A A
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:45 PM   #196
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I like it duke, I have been doing the value over shove and I am a big fan, but overbetting coordinated boards seems like super-profit.
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:45 PM   #197
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I don't think those are really considered over betting, I think you should do something more along the lines of over betting the river for value. Just because you have top set and they raise you on the flop and you shove doesn't mean its an over bet, its perfectly normal vs a ton of people with low flop raise % because they are never raise folding.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:15 AM   #198
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Did I miss the Applying Baluga Theorem COTW?

Anyways, pretty excited for a few of them coming up
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How about one on SPR?
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I don't think those are really considered over betting, I think you should do something more along the lines of over betting the river for value. Just because you have top set and they raise you on the flop and you shove doesn't mean its an over bet, its perfectly normal vs a ton of people with low flop raise % because they are never raise folding.
I've got a bunch of other examples - most are flop overbets, but I have plenty of turn and river examples from this week as well. I consider an overbet to be >POT smash

And if its the terminology of "overbet" that anyone has a problem with, I wont debate definitions or semantics. I'll accept what ever word is most appropriate for betting >POT.

The fact of the matter is that its an underutilized and highly +EV move.
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