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01-26-2011 , 10:21 PM
I think there's another COTW that would be very useful -- dealing with monotone flops. I usually have a few of those per day where I'm debating the best way to go. Coinflips made a post about a monotone flop today, and I did as well.

Issues to discuss could include what to consider when:
* You flop a low, vulnerable flush
* You flop a low flush draw
* You flop a high flush
* You flop the nut flush, only vulnerable if the board pairs (or straight flush comes)
* You flop a set, obviously with no flush draw yourself
* You flop a straight, with no flush draw yourself [these suck]
* You raised preflop, so whether to cbet
* Whether to donk, or checkraise as a bluff, or with a flush draw
Etc.
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01-27-2011 , 01:39 AM
Hi

I have a request:

Can someone do a COTW about playing sets? (with relevant HH if possible)

1) playing heads-up (IP/OOP) against TAG, LAG, nits
2) playing MW pots (IP / OOP )

3) on low boards ( 732r, u have 77 ), A lone high card board (A72r, K59r etc)
4) super wet boards ( 3 to a straight, monotone etc)

thanks
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01-27-2011 , 01:45 AM
i think we could get a really good discussion going around isolation.
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01-27-2011 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dubakkur
Hi

I have a request:

Can someone do a COTW about playing sets? (with relevant HH if possible)

1) playing heads-up (IP/OOP) against TAG, LAG, nits
2) playing MW pots (IP / OOP )

3) on low boards ( 732r, u have 77 ), A lone high card board (A72r, K59r etc)
4) super wet boards ( 3 to a straight, monotone etc)

thanks
ooooohhhhhhh, I am so up for writing this one. I sets.

I'll put it on the schedule for late February.
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01-27-2011 , 08:42 AM
a article about range balancing would be fantastic!!!
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01-27-2011 , 09:04 AM
i would like an cotw about precise defining and using the following terms/concepts:
balanced, unbalanced, polarized, depolarized, (un)-balancing, polarizing, merging, weighted range..

i know Split made COTW: Understanding Polarization, but i found this old thread: Range Polarization (worth reading all posts of it) and now all looks much more complicated..

as i said, what i expect from a new COTW is to clearly define (with examples) the concepts above because seems like not everyone use them with the same meaning.

Last edited by lien; 01-27-2011 at 09:25 AM.
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01-28-2011 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pat3392
a article about range balancing would be fantastic!!!
Balancing: A term playmasters and aggro monkies use to justify spew. That should help alot.



Id be open to writing one in late february to early march.

How do you guys feel about a COTW on using backdoor draws?
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01-28-2011 , 08:24 AM
didn't ricky essentially cover that in the barreling cotw?
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01-28-2011 , 08:40 AM
back door draws would be interesting
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01-28-2011 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by *COINFLIPS*
didn't ricky essentially cover that in the barreling cotw?
Yeah most cotws done in 2008 just scratched the surface when the overall make up of the games was different. Games are tougher now and concepts need to be discussed in more detail - like isolation raises could have a book (or at least a 40-50 page chapter) about it - there are a whole heap of stuff which can be discussed - as can 3 betting etc. etc. - in '11 we as a community need to move forward by analysing the nitty gritty of each topic in more detail so people can become experts on these topics.
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01-28-2011 , 08:58 AM
In '11 this is still the Micro and Beginner's forum. Maybe we need to move on to Small Stakes.
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01-28-2011 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
In '11 this is still the Micro and Beginner's forum. Maybe we need to move on to Small Stakes.
I agree with that in a sense because the cotw have well and truly gotten the fundamentals down to a point that beating the micros can be done quite easily - the topics being covered are increasingly specific and less useful at lower stakes games such as 2nl-5nl. I'm not saying these new cotws are inapplicable at low stakes, but new players can easily misinterpret the info given here and misapply it. I mean 3 betting light vs a steal and playing oop is a topic which shouldn't really be a common situation until 25nl really at the earliest. Ofc it's good to have this knowledge at 2nl, but it's not really going to be the best use of a new player's time. I mean the cotw is too good an idea to let go to waste, but we need to think of ways to expand upon it otherwise we will just end up going around in circles.
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01-28-2011 , 09:38 AM
IME 3betting light against steals is very relevant at NL10 today. However most people reading these forums have much more fundamental leaks.
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01-28-2011 , 09:43 AM
i fully endorse any cotw that makes people create more dead money =)
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01-28-2011 , 09:45 AM
Ok, I volunteer for "4-bet-folding for balance".
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01-28-2011 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
IME 3betting light against steals is very relevant at NL10 today. However most people reading these forums have much more fundamental leaks.
I know but writing a cotw won't help people correct the fundamental leaks - they are already there tbh. In order to improve, people need to do their own homework. The advice in those cotws is pure gold tbh.
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01-28-2011 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by *COINFLIPS*
didn't ricky essentially cover that in the barreling cotw?
Think outside of the box. I've heard there are also some other applications.
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01-29-2011 , 02:02 AM
these really are great!
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01-29-2011 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lien
i would like an cotw about precise defining and using the following terms/concepts:
balanced, unbalanced, polarized, depolarized, (un)-balancing, polarizing, merging, weighted range..

i know Split made COTW: Understanding Polarization, but i found this old thread: Range Polarization (worth reading all posts of it) and now all looks much more complicated..

as i said, what i expect from a new COTW is to clearly define (with examples) the concepts above because seems like not everyone use them with the same meaning.
was my post so dumb.. ?
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01-29-2011 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lx12
I agree with that in a sense because the cotw have well and truly gotten the fundamentals down to a point that beating the micros can be done quite easily - the topics being covered are increasingly specific and less useful at lower stakes games such as 2nl-5nl. I'm not saying these new cotws are inapplicable at low stakes, but new players can easily misinterpret the info given here and misapply it. I mean 3 betting light vs a steal and playing oop is a topic which shouldn't really be a common situation until 25nl really at the earliest. Ofc it's good to have this knowledge at 2nl, but it's not really going to be the best use of a new player's time. I mean the cotw is too good an idea to let go to waste, but we need to think of ways to expand upon it otherwise we will just end up going around in circles.
This is a really good point. I think I will adjust my plan for my next COTW and write separate sections specifically addressing each micro level.

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Originally Posted by Cangurino
IME 3betting light against steals is very relevant at NL10 today. However most people reading these forums have much more fundamental leaks.
I 100% agree. We get our edge from exploiting villain tendencies. If an NL $10 player knows enough basic strat to steal a lot, but reacts poorly to 3 bets (either by folding or calling too much, or by making big mistakes postflop), then we need to be exploiting him.

In fact, this is a very common leak in the micros; there are a lot of spots in which the field's aggression puts it in spots its post flop skills can't profitably handle. Stealing is the number 1 situation on that list of leaks.
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01-29-2011 , 01:51 PM
RFC (Request for Concept): Overadjusting, or How to avoid spew when moving up
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01-29-2011 , 02:12 PM
^^play fewer tables, play stronger ranges OOP, don't adjust until someone gives you a good reason to. target regs with bluffs, target fish with value bets.

and ranges x10000000000

folding is okay
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01-29-2011 , 04:12 PM
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RFC (Request for Concept): Overadjusting, or How to avoid spew when moving up
oo

That's acctually a much better one for me to do, considering I've played everything from 5nl-200nl seriously in the last year.

Switch playing backdoor draws to this imo.
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01-29-2011 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by *COINFLIPS*
i think we could get a really good discussion going around isolation.
Any love/interest?
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01-29-2011 , 07:54 PM
Why don't you sign yourself up for it coinflips?
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