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makes sense. And I understand the logic behind their betsizing...I just select sizes that i feel work best given my style/game selection/opponents/etc

(PS...FWF and DJ = teh nuts)

When LAGging small flop and turn gets a lot of folds on suitable community cards. When TAGging I agree with Brock.

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05-31-2010 , 11:02 PM

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When LAGging small flop and turn gets a lot of folds on suitable community cards. When TAGging I agree with Brock.

Good point. I play 17/15 to 18/15, which is probably more towards a TAG I guess. However, I think against bad players it really doesn't matter that much and if you're playing looser preflop betting large with big hands may actually be better because they will think that you will have a weak hand/air a lot of the time. A lot of players incorrectly assume that a player that is loose/gets out line preflop will also play loose/get out line postflop. That said, against a better player your image and what you perceive their hand range to be are obviously very important considerations.

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05-31-2010 , 11:03 PM

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really? not to be argumentative, but I always see the exact opposite. Players bet too large and blow out 2nd best hands and make bluffs too expensive ime.

if you understand relative hand ranges, then yes varying your betsize can be good. But for the most part players at the micros don't get enough value from their made hands and bluff too much. Therefore if you were going to write 1500 words it would be bet closer to pot on made hands and don't bluff.

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05-31-2010 , 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TimTamBiscuit

When LAGging small flop and turn gets a lot of folds on suitable community cards. When TAGging I agree with Brock.

its a balance and more specific than "always bet this v that"...but yea...I'm not arguing here...mostly because this debate never goes well for anyone (because everybody sees the game parameters from their eyes...and different sizes work in different parameters...and when no one is on the same page from the 1st step...it's a useless conversation. not that im thinking either of you couldn't understand where I am coming from, nor me see from your POV, its just a very loooooooooong convo that doesnt do all that much good, lol)

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05-31-2010 , 11:05 PM

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I do shortstack. This is actually the spare (maybe alter-ego?) account of a nice and known poster...so be kind good sir

SS'er are soulless. I know split use to shortstack back in the day, but I think he only ss when he moves up in levels now.

But he probably is still soulless from the whole experience.

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05-31-2010 , 11:06 PM

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parasite....

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05-31-2010 , 11:08 PM

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+1. It would be a good convo to have IRL rather than over the internet because I like to hear different points of view from good players. I actually get a lot more out of talking about poker IRL than posting endlessly in HH threads.

Unfortunately most of my close friends suck the ball sack when it comes to poker....

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05-31-2010 , 11:11 PM

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parasite....

??? Over my head I'm afraid. Pls explain.

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05-31-2010 , 11:12 PM

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SS'er are soulless. I know split use to shortstack back in the day, but I think he only ss when he moves up in levels now.

But he probably is still soulless from the whole experience.

soulless...you betchya. and im shortstacking a lil more now a days because I have been coaching it more, have a protege doing it, and its great prep for tourny play (WSOP and all).

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well if you get out to Vegas ill talk poker. its pretty much all i do everyday anyway, lol

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05-31-2010 , 11:17 PM

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well if you get out to Vegas ill talk poker. its pretty much all i do everyday anyway, lol

I was there last weekend, but I had a buddy with me and I basically only left the Venetian poker room to head to the sports book, eat, or sleep.

I can billy-guarantee that I'll be back in early September. Possibly on a solo-mission, so I'll keep you posted.

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05-31-2010 , 11:18 PM

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ill be gone by Sept (fingers crossed anyway). def lemme know though

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06-02-2010 , 03:26 PM

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makes sense. And I understand the logic behind their betsizing...I just select sizes that i feel work best given my style/game selection/opponents/etc

(PS...FWF and DJ = teh nuts)

I really like DJ's The Fellowship of the Ring series.

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06-05-2010 , 04:14 PM

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some jackass forgot to do his COTW this week...what kind of idiot would forget that?

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06-15-2010 , 01:23 AM

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Hey guys. Just letting you know I'm aware its my week for COTW. I'm having trouble finding time to grind, and that comes before writing. I'll try to crank it out tomorrow if I can.

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06-15-2010 , 07:24 PM

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Am I crazy? I'm scanning the list and looking for the CoTW on playing top pair. I can't find it. Did we never do this? If we didn't, we should ASAP imo. Like half the threads on here are like 'I have top pair and I got {raised on flop, donked into on turn, called on flop+turn, etc.}'.

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06-16-2010 , 01:01 PM

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Hey guys. Just letting you know I'm aware its my week for COTW. I'm having trouble finding time to grind, and that comes before writing. I'll try to crank it out tomorrow if I can.

I still have to do mine, so you can take next week if that's cool. I'll grind it out tomorrow if we are agreed

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06-17-2010 , 03:26 AM

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I'll write one on playing TPTK but, it is going to be super complicated and be more of summary of all the COTW eva written.

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06-17-2010 , 03:30 AM

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I'll write one on playing TPTK but, it is going to be super complicated and be more of summary of all the COTW eva written.

Spoiler:

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06-17-2010 , 12:33 PM

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Big thanks to springsteen for filling in for my absent article this week! I've moved my my article on range balancing to the next open slot.

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I'll write one on playing TPTK but, it is going to be super complicated and be more of summary of all the COTW eva written.

I'm going to take you up on that.

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06-17-2010 , 02:17 PM

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I'll write one on playing TPTK but, it is going to be super complicated and be more of summary of all the COTW eva written.

I would think this could be several CoTW given that AQ on an Qxx board is a lot different than A9 on a 9xx board.

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06-21-2010 , 06:08 PM

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Gonna have mine up first thing in the AM. Stuck doing work-work ATM and need to do some quick edits.

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06-23-2010 , 11:13 AM

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Maquiladora's COTW lead me to some other threads (specifically http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...oating-549851/) that got me thinking about donking. Basically as a new player i was told "donkings bad, dont do it; here's why" and I believed it (and 90% still do). Now ive played hundreds of thousands of hands and I follow the betting initiative like clockwork everytime. But in that thread a lot of people who i respect advocated a c/c flop, donk turn line. In that thread, I see their reasoning and logic.

I guess this could be similar to "playing without initiative" but I would be very very interested in people's logic on when donk betting is good.

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06-25-2010 , 03:42 PM

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This is a serious suggestion:

I think we need a Concept of the Week entitled: "How to Ship a WSOP Final Table."

I enjoyed railing the epic run KurtSF had, but I also think that he probably learned a lot about a wide variety of topics, from playing against such a huge field to keeping his cool as the final table started getting to be a realistic goal.

I think a thoughtful trip report on the tourney would be a very valuable addition to the COTW line-up.

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06-25-2010 , 06:54 PM

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i volunteer writing Part I of this COTW: "How to make it to the first pee break: Sometimes"

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06-28-2010 , 02:13 PM

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I'd support the following

- Playing fish (because apparently some 2p2ers have trouble playing absolute maniacs)

- Using the donkbet

- Breaking away from standard lines

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