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11-13-2009 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lancelott_
sb make one about (semi)bluffraising vs floating type of COTW
Floating has been dealt with. It was an ex tempore thing and came out of nowhere. The stuff in the thread got so deep and so utterly involved that the participants (and mpethy, of course) decided to promote it to CotW status. Still one of the threads I haven't read properly through. If it hadn't happened, I would have volunteered to write on the subject myself.

The other subject you propose is at the same time too narrow and too wide, I think. It ties heavily into player reads, board texture, ranges and combination of pot equity + fold equity. Either it gets exhausted immediately or goes on forever. A few properly selected sample hands might make grand PAHWM threads instead.
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11-13-2009 , 03:12 PM
pokerron, can you do reasons to bet for nov 30?

split, can you do double barreling for dec 7?
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11-13-2009 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
pokerron, can you do reasons to bet for nov 30?
Yes Captain.
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11-13-2009 , 07:19 PM
could I do double barreling?
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11-13-2009 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky1231
could I do double barreling?
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11-13-2009 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky1231
could I do double barreling?
I mean i want him to do it
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11-14-2009 , 01:57 AM
?
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11-14-2009 , 09:45 AM
yea, let ricky do dubbing because he wants it

give me something sexy

("getting the most out of a coaching/sweat session" ... "an intro to planning"... "making the transition to LAG play" etc)
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11-14-2009 , 03:42 PM
ok, ricky, dubbing on dec 7?

*split*, "transitioning to lag for dec 14? (we were supposed to have this one a few weeks back and it got missed, so that'll be a great pick up).
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11-14-2009 , 04:20 PM
cool. done
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11-15-2009 , 08:25 PM
How about one on getting the most out of 2+2?
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11-16-2009 , 04:47 PM
It would be really good if someone wrote smth about how to defend against light 3-betting.
Ppl are starting to 3-bet u light even at NL10 Today I was 12tabling NL10 and the guy(a reg) was constantly 3-betting me light. Over smth like 500-1k hand sample he had 3-bet 8.5%. So COTW about this would be really really good.. If ppl start 3-betting light at NL25..pff wtf happends at NL50? I didn't see anyone who 3-bets that much even at NL25(haven't played it so much though..smth around 10k hands)
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11-16-2009 , 06:39 PM
Didn't really look at these too much until now. Lot of these are really well done. If you're not already full I'd like to do one on mental game I think. Got most actual poker concepts covered and I think it's something a lot of people overlook and I could cover pretty well.
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11-16-2009 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BobStal
It would be really good if someone wrote smth about how to defend against light 3-betting.
There have been 2 COTWs that covered this well already imo.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...etting-436868/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...3-bets-483541/

They should be good for another read if you haven't read 'em in a while.
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11-16-2009 , 11:57 PM
Maybe someone could do one on multi-tabling (especially 10+ tables). It might seem pretty self explanatory or unnecessary, but I think there are a couple of interesting things could be explored. For example, I find it very hard to play 12 tables without going into robot mode. I've heard of players playing like 20 tables (not tiled) yet still take notes DURING the session. I find this very difficult. I end up having to take post session notes instead and even then I get lazy and mostly don't do it.
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11-17-2009 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shyturtle27
Maybe someone could do one on multi-tabling (especially 10+ tables). It might seem pretty self explanatory or unnecessary, but I think there are a couple of interesting things could be explored. For example, I find it very hard to play 12 tables without going into robot mode. I've heard of players playing like 20 tables (not tiled) yet still take notes DURING the session. I find this very difficult. I end up having to take post session notes instead and even then I get lazy and mostly don't do it.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/96...ke-pro-199155/
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11-17-2009 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
2. As for next year: I think there is merit to covering certain situations in more detail. So what I am thinking is that we dedicate 2010 to APPLYING the concepts previously discussed by having COTW that link to (or quote) the original COTW thread and then the new poster posts a hand or hands that he thinks illustrates the main points of the concept, refutes the previous discussion, is an exception to the general rule in the original post, or whatever. Thoughts?
TBH, I think that a more detailed look at certain COTW is worthy. Greg did an excellent job of taking the knn05's 3bet COTW and extending it to 3betting light.

Ideas would include, "How to exploit having position on a villain, "Advanced leak detection, " or "Becoming a coach for fun and profit."
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11-18-2009 , 09:14 AM
I suggest having a COTW on "Paired Flops." Perhaps next year, in light of mpethy saying to cover certain situations in more details next year. It's still a v general topic, as 17% of all possible flops are paired. But it's an interesting topic as balancing, bluffing, and re-bluffing are particularly important issues on paired boards.

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11-24-2009 , 08:59 AM
i am having some problems with those "overbet shoves" mostly on river.

not the ones done by fishes, but those ones done by the typical TAG style reg. i watched some videos from deucescracked and saw them doing this play mainly with middle pairs during a very weak play (bet/call flop, check/check turn).

this play is not in my toolbox yet, so i'd be interessting reading about it.
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11-24-2009 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbiker
i am having some problems with those "overbet shoves" mostly on river.

not the ones done by fishes, but those ones done by the typical TAG style reg. i watched some videos from deucescracked and saw them doing this play mainly with middle pairs during a very weak play (bet/call flop, check/check turn).

this play is not in my toolbox yet, so i'd be interessting reading about it.
it is not often done at FR. it is done however when you think you are getting folds a ton (to this specific betsize), but a normal bet would be called very often
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11-24-2009 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by *Split*
it is not often done at FR. it is done however when you think you are getting folds a ton (to this specific betsize), but a normal bet would be called very often
I'd just add you see it a lot in the lower regions of the micros. Typically it will be a player that has super slow played his monster because he didn't want everyone to fold and realized the river is his last chance to get paid off.
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11-25-2009 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by *Split*
it is not often done at FR. it is done however when you think you are getting folds a ton (to this specific betsize), but a normal bet would be called very often
Isn't that like super exploitable? Idk when I would ever do this except to the fishiest of fish for value.
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11-25-2009 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
Isn't that like super exploitable? Idk when I would ever do this except to the fishiest of fish for value.
you are assuming a 24 tabling HUDbot is going to hand read =)

also...if you are doing this against certain ppl...then you should also be balancing by shoving the nuts as well
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11-25-2009 , 11:25 PM
awesome,u guys are the best.

thanks for the job
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11-30-2009 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zachvac
Didn't really look at these too much until now. Lot of these are really well done. If you're not already full I'd like to do one on mental game I think. Got most actual poker concepts covered and I think it's something a lot of people overlook and I could cover pretty well.
zachvac, could you do the mental game for 21 Dec? That'd be awesome and would close us out for the year.
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