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05-17-2017 , 01:12 PM

jpfrancis

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 8

I was enjoying a decent session; playing quite tight, when this happened!

Is my biggest mistake not betting the turn? should I stop to evaluate after the river reraise? Just a cooler move onto the next hand?

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37726997

CO: $1.98 (99 bb)
BTN: $2.03 (101.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $3.58 (179 bb)
BB: $1.63 (81.5 bb)
UTG: $1.63 (81.5 bb)
MP: $2.02 (101 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

2 folds, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, Hero completes, BB checks

Flop: ($0.08) 8

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $0.05, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB folds

Turn: ($0.18) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.09, Hero calls $0.09

River: ($0.36) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, CO raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $3.42 and is all-in, CO calls $1.22 and is all-in

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05-17-2017 , 01:42 PM

coldeu

adept

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 776

hum......fold pre

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05-17-2017 , 01:55 PM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,434

Fold pre. You're only getting 7:1 to complete and you have a hand that basically has to flop trips to have any value. Even a hand like 73s gives you much more equity (straight and flush potential).

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05-17-2017 , 09:40 PM

Yacht67

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 237

83o might as well be 72o. Fold pre and we don't get into this spot later. I'll never treat this as a cooler. Tighten your range on the SB.

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05-18-2017 , 12:39 AM

krikara

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 253

While playing 83o in the SB is a losing play, this could've been a spot where you won money.

Check raising or calling on the turn is absolutely fine. You can opt to trap or extract value here and neither is a bad play.

Your mistake is reraising on the river. Coolers happen all the time and people get there. It's very possibly the villain has Jx here and when you jam like that, really only Jx is calling you.

If the guy is a whale calling you with any overpair, then yeah you can argue this jam and you'll be able to win more money from him in the long run. Other than that, even a fish will not call this jam without Jx in this spot.

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05-18-2017 , 05:58 AM

Ron!n

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 682

Is river reraise a bluff? Seriously why do you think reraising river here is a good play?

83 pre is one of the absolute worst hands to have, just fold it.

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05-18-2017 , 10:48 AM

Nxia

enthusiast

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 69

In the small blind you'll be out of position the whole hand. That's a HUGE disadvantage and cannot be understated.

Also how are you going to make marginal decisions if you don't know your own range? In certain spot I'll be like "I'll check call 87 raise A7 and check fold 67 and check raise 77"...

what on earth will you do? " I'll check call 82o, 94o...I check raise bluff 83o on a 8J48J board"

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05-19-2017 , 12:07 PM

Nevyn

centurion

Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 130

1) Fold pre

2) Since you got all trappy on the turn and flat called a half pot bet, you are now in check-call the river mode (or even check fold). Villain led 2 streets on a jack high board and any jack beats you. If he bets a 3rd street what on earth do you think he has?

After you lead the river and are raise its a fold.

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05-22-2017 , 08:21 AM

vrbik

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,038

fold pre..
fold flop..

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05-29-2017 , 10:19 PM

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redlineftw

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 189

Grunch...

Fold pre.. however, seen as you got to the river you should just fold to the raise..

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