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04-22-2010 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sircuddles
Example 2
CO: $25.60
Hero (BB): $27.05

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A A
4 folds, CO raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75

Action with aces! You like it. You'll just call so you don't scare him away.

Flop: ($2.10) A K 8 (2 players)

Top set on a board like that! "Hot damn!" you think to yourself. Your opponent could be sitting on AK, AQ, KQ, any number of hands. You decide to be crafty and check to let your opponent bet.

Hero checks, CO bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.10) T

He seems like he may have something worth playing, so you lead small on the turn to keep him leashed.

Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Nice!

River: ($7.10) 6

Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50

Final Pot: $12.10
Hero shows A A
CO mucks 88

What!? He flopped a set too! What happened here? You slow played top set while your opponent was sitting on bottom set. This hand is a total disaster. Had you have been aggressive in the hand you could have stacked off on the flop or the turn very easily. In a hand like this he was more than likely getting all his chips in on the flop or turn had you been betting and raising. The river card killed the action and had him worried about a straight or a flush, so he only called. In this situation your slow play cost you an extreme amount, to the tune of about $19.00. That’s 76 big blinds. That is huge.
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Originally Posted by Reinvoke
What I said is undoubtedly specific.
now it is.

I vote we lock this thread. If the games change where this strat advice becomes outdated, a new post will undoubtedly come along and takes its place. Until then, the only replies seem to be "TY" or "I have a question about a hand I just played".

It's the "I have a question" that needs to addressed imo. If a poster wants to ask something specific about this thread, wouldn't it be better in the form of a new thread? In the form::

"I was reading sircuddles' guide and have a question of strat. I had a hand come up last night that was "X" and thought that the guide said the strat should be ......."

Otherwise, this thread could run forever as a collection area for HH that would be better placed in individual HH threads.

imo
04-22-2010 , 02:00 PM
TY

Yeah I say close and sticky it.
04-22-2010 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pele02
TY

Yeah I say close and sticky it.
and remove moronic poasts........
04-23-2010 , 06:42 AM
good guide, but I wouldn't go as far as saying you can beat 25NL like that. Maybe it was like that a couple of years ago, nowadays the nivel of the players increased and 25NL has become pretty sharky. Even at 10NL you will often find two or three Regulars in a 6-max
04-23-2010 , 06:43 AM
uups, sorry, wrong thread
04-23-2010 , 10:22 AM
hmmmmm...wondering if my closure idea will get any traction today.....
04-27-2010 , 10:09 PM
Read this last night. My two session since then have been stellar, compared to what I was running before. And I'm two-tabling instead of one on top of that. Should be required reading for ANYONE new at online poker and micros.
04-28-2010 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
hmmmmm...wondering if my closure idea will get any traction today.....
or today
04-28-2010 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
or today
Maybe we should start spamming it.
04-28-2010 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pele02
TY

Yeah I say close and sticky it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Spew
and remove moronic poasts........
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Spew
hmmmmm...wondering if my closure idea will get any traction today.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Spew
or today
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Originally Posted by Cangurino
Maybe we should start spamming it.
wondering about the best way to spam..........
04-28-2010 , 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Spew
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Spew
Quote:
Originally Posted by pele02
TY

Yeah I say close and sticky it.
and remove moronic poasts........
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Spew
hmmmmm...wondering if my closure idea will get any traction today.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Spew
or today
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cangurino
Maybe we should start spamming it.
wondering about the best way to spam..........
I'm sure we can come up with something.
04-28-2010 , 02:58 PM
maybe bumping it to the front page..... ?
04-28-2010 , 02:58 PM
do it
04-28-2010 , 03:50 PM
Locking this thing would make me sad because it is such an amazingly good post! And imo still good strat. But since sircuddles isn't around to answer questions anymore, and all the discussion could just as well take place somewhere else, and y'all seem to want to force my hand...


...I'm considering it.
04-28-2010 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Locking this thing would make me sad because it is such an amazingly good post! And imo still good strat. But since sircuddles isn't around to answer questions anymore, and all the discussion could just as well take place somewhere else, and y'all seem to want to force my hand...


...I'm considering it.
Could get a linky in the COTW thread or something and it would still be easily accessible. Pretty sure it is in the FAQ too...
04-28-2010 , 04:08 PM
I read this a while ago and never showed my appreciation. So while I have the chance without bumping it to page 1 (because it's here already), thanks a lot for the write-up!
04-28-2010 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Locking this thing would make me sad because it is such an amazingly good post! And imo still good strat. But since sircuddles isn't around to answer questions anymore, and all the discussion could just as well take place somewhere else, and y'all seem to want to force my hand...


...I'm considering it.
I can take over that responsibilites...since my WR at the micros + RB + FTP point + bonuses almost makes me a BE player.
04-28-2010 , 06:03 PM
this threadis quite awesome. what happened to sircuddles? busto? say it isn't so...
04-28-2010 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by walkinbacktopenna
this threadis quite awesome. what happened to sircuddles? busto? say it isn't so...
Cashed out his BR and bought a top of the line PC to play videogames instead of poker iirc. Not busto, just quit playin'.
04-28-2010 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtSF
Cashed out his BR and bought a top of the line PC to play videogames instead of poker iirc. Not busto, just quit playin'.
same thing when you use level 3 thinking :P.
04-29-2010 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by andyhai
judging from that thread, insane amounts of analysis? i occasionally try to read that thread, but my eyes usually glaze over, i know i should do more homework but don't seem to get around to it as often as i should looking over that thread i see i actually have a reply in there, but i just couldn't keep up with the mad infostream and lost the thread of what he was talking about, made a little more sense this re-reading but still glazed over towards the end of the first page.

w/r to the graph digger posted, i would say that in my inexpert estimation, 25K hands might not be enough to reliably extrapolate a winrate, and plus regardless of what digger might say in the thread, it was still him playing the hands so he'll have a bigger expected w/r than someone of less skill and experience playing the same preflop strategy.

anyway i've only really played upto 25NL so maybe you're already in a better position than me to know what is needed at 50NL?
RE:nit clinic.
umm I think it is poorly structured.
It was really a revision work of mine done in thread.
I expect that I could do a better more readable one now.

And as an auxiliary point - it was not so much focussed on maximising winrate but to get people over the bridge of profitability.
And also to provide some tools and examples of review - that others could imitate.
I suspect if I did a review of it now - I might disagree with some of the stuff in there. But I have not really read it since and around the time I wrote it. But having played these limits constantly - I feel that yes the games might be slightly harder - and that it is harder to mass-table profitably using just these things for an extended period of time without supreme discipline - I would be very suprised if it is not a basic winning full-ring template for micros still primarily because the equity is on your side almost always.
04-29-2010 , 03:39 AM
Kurt....not questioning the first several pages are still top drawer strat.

I just don't need this continually bumped with:

ty

as I said before,,, there's nothing really new to add strat wise. If a revolutionary strat evolves... a new thread would probably be better, rather than tack onto this one.

stickies for a reason, no?
02-05-2012 , 05:44 PM
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