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01-06-2016 , 02:04 PM
Merge - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Zyybux (BTN): 15.2 BB (VPIP: 35.19, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 54)
TenderSprinkles (SB): 109.2 BB (VPIP: 31.94, PFR: 9.72, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 72)
McMcDorus (BB): 63 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
fleettrk (UTG): 97.2 BB
MrTreva (UTG+1): 141.7 BB (VPIP: 17.35, PFR: 8.16, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 99)
Khoitruong75 (MP): 70.2 BB (VPIP: 50.50, PFR: 21.78, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 101)
JacksonD (MP+1): 163.4 BB (VPIP: 20.33, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 124)
ATGVHG (CO): 100 BB (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 67)

TenderSprinkles posts SB 0.5 BB, McMcDorus posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) fleettrk has K K

fleettrk raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Khoitruong75 calls 2.5 BB, fold, ATGVHG calls 2.5 BB, Zyybux calls 2.5 BB, TenderSprinkles calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (13.5 BB, 5 players) 2 8 4
TenderSprinkles checks, fleettrk bets 8 BB, fold, ATGVHG calls 8 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (29.5 BB, 2 players) 5
fleettrk bets 29.5 BB, ATGVHG calls 29.5 BB

River: (88.5 BB, 2 players) 6
fleettrk bets 57.2 BB and is all-in, ATGVHG calls 57.2 BB

Spoiler:
ATGVHG shows 6 5 (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives)
(Pre 22%, Flop 36%, Turn 30%)
fleettrk shows K K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 78%, Flop 64%, Turn 70%)
ATGVHG wins 191.7 BB

Last edited by pfleet2; 01-06-2016 at 02:10 PM. Reason: names
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01-06-2016 , 04:53 PM
<-------- you might get sympathy with this hand on the BBV board under General Poker.

Then again, you might get reamed a new one.

Villain flopped a double gutshot. He won. HoHum.

In before lock or move
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01-06-2016 , 05:05 PM
You have to be slightly worried betting pot on turn and getting called right? He could easily have Ax, any pocket pair, and suited connectors(56, 67, 78) preflop. Over pairs are unlikely as he would have probably three bet pre with 10's+. I just question what he calls a shove off on the river that doesn't beat you, maybe A8 (unlikely though).
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01-06-2016 , 10:26 PM
I'd 3x pre.
Flop looks good.
Turn seems a little bit too big, but I dunno how stationy the average 10nl reg is so ehhh.
River bet is too ambitious, especially given sizing - I'd imagine it's gonna be tough to get called by a worse one pair hand here with your sizing (or maybe even get called for any sizing OTR). Definitely check or bet smaller OTR IMO. Given your turn sizing i guess check back OTR
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01-07-2016 , 09:51 AM
If you have no intention of folding your KK you might be thinking about shoving the turn. It is a bit big but you will prevent your opponent from drawing out. You will be running in flopped sets eventually though.

Otherwise it is better to bet/fold the turn with around 60% of the pot.
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01-12-2016 , 12:55 AM
raise more pre if you stack off that easily
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01-12-2016 , 03:54 PM
well i lose like that 10 in row, last 50 hands with KK lost all, just win preflop fold .. 10 in a row KK 3b lost
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02-04-2016 , 02:35 AM
As someone said, villain flopped double gut shot on flop. He then picked up a pair in the turn, so probably not terrible to call the turn given the equity and assumption you'll stack on the river.
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