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Can we ever get away from this nasty Flop?

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10-21-2016 , 10:01 AM

this_donkey

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 144

5NL Zoom, only a dozen hands with Villains.

When he raises Flop it's pretty much a set or a chump move with 2P or P+SD/GS, but can we/do we want to fold Flop or do we just ****-it-call?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37469054

BTN: $6.85 (137 bb)
SB: $7.11 (142.2 bb)
BB: $5.45 (109 bb)
UTG+1: $34.44 (688.8 bb)
UTG+2: $4.78 (95.6 bb)
MP1: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (MP2): $5 (100 bb)
MP3: $6.04 (120.8 bb)
CO: $9.58 (191.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.17, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.45, BB folds, Hero calls $0.28, CO calls $0.28

Flop: ($1.40) 8

(3 players)
SB bets $0.67, Hero calls $0.67, CO raises to $2.51, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.55 and is all-in, CO calls $2.04

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10-21-2016 , 10:33 AM

ScoopMonkey

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,910

Probably fine, I would guess without looking into it further.

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10-21-2016 , 10:37 AM

Ron!n

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 682

I mean we're likely beat here but drawing odds, money in pot and 'whatever it's micro's and all the possible weirdness that goes with it' make this an easy allin imo. We're not folding a gut shot straight+flush draw (with 2 overs though those are probably irrelevant, though AhQh would maybe be preferable).

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10-21-2016 , 10:55 AM

dogarse

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,985

Just play around with Equilab and see what you think. It's so marginal. We are never way ahead. We need like 38% equity and reasonable ranges I'm plugging in give us between 36 and 39. Against this we have 37% (JJ,99-88,QTs,J9s-J8s,98s,AhJh,AhTh,KhTh,JhTh) if we add some stuff like this (QQ+, Td9d, Ts9s, Tc9c, 7h6h, 6h5h) we get to 42% so you really need to stretch his range to make it profitable. All though there's always the random factor and gambling is fun so don't feel bad to just go with it.

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10-21-2016 , 12:21 PM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

Players at 5NL zoom don't get tricky in spots like this. The zoom factor causes most people to play more of a fit-or-fold style. So in this context you should give villain more credit that you might in a regular 5NL game.

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10-21-2016 , 05:49 PM

Bagpuss

adept

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,153

No, you played it perfectly.

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10-24-2016 , 10:09 AM

vrbik

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,038

wp, not a spot to print money.,,.

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10-24-2016 , 02:07 PM

Highspirit1978

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 374

I would of called and run it through a poker calculator and study the hand later to see if i made the right move and try to avoid a similar situation next time.

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10-24-2016 , 05:48 PM

Dom94

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 32

It's just a cooler really. No way you can fold, just shove while you have the most equity

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