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| Micro Stakes Full Ring Discussion of up to .25/.50 online no-limit pot-limit Texas hold'em full ring games, situations and strategies |
08-15-2012, 04:57 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4,098
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Am I always beat here?
Villain is a 15/14 reg over 187 hands, cbet flop 63%, cbet turn 67%, AF 2, AFq 45%:
PokerStars - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
CO: $51.25
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $82.04
BB: $22.10
UTG: $51.25
UTG+1: $17.85
MP: $22.73
MP+1: $52.62
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has T  A
UTG raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.50, fold, fold
Flop: ($3.75, 2 players) 5  Q  A
UTG bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50
Turn: ($8.75, 2 players) A
UTG bets $6.00, Hero calls $6.00
River: ($20.75, 2 players) 8
UTG bets $11.00, fold
UTG wins $19.82
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08-15-2012, 04:59 PM
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#2
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,203
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Re: Am I always beat here?
187 hands does not equal a reg
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08-15-2012, 05:01 PM
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#3
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,790
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Re: Am I always beat here?
looks fine
Last edited by pokerarb; 08-15-2012 at 05:01 PM.
Reason: but he might know u fold 55 and bruff
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08-15-2012, 05:02 PM
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#4
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4,098
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Re: Am I always beat here?
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Originally Posted by chaser3
187 hands does not equal a reg
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No, but the stats do.
I'm not going to wait 500+ hands before I make my decision on whether someone is likely to be a competent reg, a bad reg or a fish, it would take ages to get samples of that size. I can normally tell after 10 to 20 hands, and certainly by about 80 hands or more.
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08-15-2012, 05:03 PM
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#5
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enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: crematory
Posts: 78
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Re: Am I always beat here?
i'd fold PF since AT is easily dominated vs UTG raise (his stats are also kinda solid). but as played i'm folding on the river.
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08-15-2012, 05:06 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,790
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Re: Am I always beat here?
think ATs00ted is fine with the button
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08-15-2012, 05:09 PM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: crematory
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Re: Am I always beat here?
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Originally Posted by pokerarb
think ATs00ted is fine with the button
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sorry, i missed it's ATs... but anyways... isn't our river decission "to call or not to call" so damn hard exactly because of this T kicker?
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08-15-2012, 05:10 PM
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#8
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4,098
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Re: Am I always beat here?
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Originally Posted by pokerarb
think ATs00ted is fine with the button
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Yeah, I'd muck ATo pre-flop in this spot, but I think ATs is ok.
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08-15-2012, 05:10 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,641
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerarb
looks fine
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This.
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08-15-2012, 05:12 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,790
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Re: Am I always beat here?
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Originally Posted by CardBurner
sorry, i missed it's ATs... but anyways... isn't our river decission "to call or not to call" so damn hard exactly because of this T kicker?
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yeah, in this particular spot that T kicker sucks, but AtS is a great hadn and we're always IP and can win in a low of different ways on different boards
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08-15-2012, 05:22 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 4,098
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Re: Am I always beat here?
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Originally Posted by pokerarb
yeah, in this particular spot that T kicker sucks, but AtS is a great hadn and we're always IP and can win in a low of different ways on different boards
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I think the villain's half pot river bet is to try and extract a bit more value from worse Aces but it doesn't commit him if I raise all-in with a full house.
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08-15-2012, 05:27 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,203
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Re: Am I always beat here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokie
I think the villain's half pot river bet is to try and extract a bit more value from worse Aces but it doesn't commit him if I raise all-in with a full house.
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fine with the fold on the river
if he had AK here he wouldn't fold anyway if someone raised him. Are you really that nitty you would fold AK to a raise?
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08-15-2012, 07:11 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 200
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Re: Am I always beat here?
Can anyone tell me why this line is fine if he were to fold to a blank on the river?
If you're going to fold to a blank, why would we call turn?
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08-15-2012, 08:00 PM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 51
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Re: Am I always beat here?
infomation. he wasnt afraid to fire a 3rd barrel after we call the turn with 2 aces on the board. we know we are beat here, but not nesscessarly on the turn
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08-15-2012, 08:41 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Re: Am I always beat here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaser3
fine with the fold on the river
if he had AK here he wouldn't fold anyway if someone raised him. Are you really that nitty you would fold AK to a raise?
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I would be mucking AK to a significant raise here, yes. This is because I am more likely to be getting raised by a slow-played full house that filled up on the turn than by a worse Ace that only decided to raise on the river instead of on the turn where an Ace may be more likely to raise.
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