Was correct preflop? and how was flop (imo had several outs )


PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $2.55
BB: $2.03 (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 39)
UTG: $2.00 (VPIP: 13.48, PFR: 8.99, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 89)
UTG+1: $3.04 (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: $2.00 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 15)
MP+1: $2.39 (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 35)
MP+2: $2.00 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
CO: $2.17 (VPIP: 14.95, PFR: 12.15, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 109)
BTN: $3.72 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A K

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.08, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.18, MP+1 calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.62, 3 players) J 4 T
Hero bets $0.42, UTG+1 raises to $2.84 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $1.93 and is all-in

Turn: ($5.32, 2 players) J

River: ($5.32, 2 players) 8

Hero shows A K (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 34%, Flop 32%, Turn 34%)
UTG+1 shows K K (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 66%, Flop 68%, Turn 66%)
UTG+1 wins $5.13

I would have made the bet bigger pre as we are playing OOP.. somewhere at 3.3x (0.26). I like the cbet on flop but totaly dislike the call when he jams. Easy fold

If he's bluffing don't think he jams.. he raises. As played he can have two pairs or over pairs (AA KK played poorly). There is no reason calling here. You beat only bluffs. AK is overrated in micro cash .. i see a lot of players calling exactly as you and I'm happy when it happens as I make money. But if you want to win, just fold here.. total spew imo


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Agree 100%

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Yeah I was chasing too mutch my straight/flush draw

Your gutshot and backdoor flush draw? Those aren't worth much.

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This feels like a troll but I'll explain why the flop call was bad anyhow.

The person going all in is UTG+1. They may have limped but they called a 3 bet and they are now jamming. Alarm bells should be ringing, even if you had AJ you should be concerned and considering a fold. Just because the person has strange stats doesn't mean they are bluffing, it just means they are limping a lot and in hindsight limping their strongest hands to partially protect their weaker hands.

When calling with draws you need to consider a few factors.
1. How many good outs do you have? What's this in % probability
2. What odds is the bet laying you
3. If its close, ONLY THEN consider likelihood of villain bluffing

The odds of you hitting the backdoor flush are small and in an all in pot not worth considering. You are drawing to a queen only so 4 outs. Roughly this is 16% chance of hitting. You are calling $1.93 to win $5.32 so you need at least 36% equity. This isn't even close.

You have absolutely right!
But how did you calculate that 36% equity thing?
I know how to calculate my odds ,but this equity thing seems kind a confusing :S

Using the "4 and 2" rule.

If you are on the flop, you do the number of outs x 4 and when on turn, you multiply by 2 (eg. Flop: Ts4sKh you hold As5s. You have a flush draw and you have 9 outs. Using above rule, you multiply your outs ny 4 9x4=36 meaning you have 36% chance to complete your flush. When on the turn, you multiply by 2 instead of 4. So if in our case the turn was blank, like a 9h.. then on the turn your chance will be 9x2=18%)

Hope it makes sense..


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Ignore the above.. have missread the question

For the eq you need to calculate your pot ods. Lets you have done and you get a 3:1 , this means that you'll need at least 25% to make this call profitabily. That 25% its made by dividing the number from the right (1) to the sum of the numbers (1+3=4) and multiply by 100. So.. 1/(1+3)x100=27%

Cheers


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Oh thank you very mutch ,but I was thinking that generally
I can use poker odds chart ,then I dont have to waste time for calculating by myself?
I mean graph like this below

Seems like AK is becoming my biggest losing hand :S
Today I had this kind a hand I was puting him same hand or some Ax and I was just jamming

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.62 (VPIP: 23.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 13.95, Hands: 141)
Hero (SB): $2.75
BB: $0.79 (VPIP: 30.17, PFR: 1.72, 3Bet Preflop: 1.75, Hands: 116)
UTG: $2.24 (VPIP: 14.75, PFR: 11.80, 3Bet Preflop: 2.19, Hands: 375)
UTG+1: $2.21 (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 16.30, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 93)
MP: $1.98 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
CO: $2.00 (VPIP: 12.56, PFR: 11.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.27, Hands: 452)

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K A

fold, fold, MP calls $0.02, fold, BTN raises to $0.10, Hero calls $0.09, fold, MP calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.32, 3 players) A 8 6
Hero checks, MP bets $0.31, BTN calls $0.31, Hero calls $0.31

Turn: ($1.25, 3 players) 4
Hero bets $0.85, MP raises to $1.57 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $0.72

River: ($4.39, 2 players) T

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 48%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
MP shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 52%, Flop 94%, Turn 82%)
MP wins $4.24

Why are you flatting AKs out of the SB to a button raise?
What was your plan for the flop?
Why did you lead the turn?

I dont know, mbye Im too confused because I am reading everything about poker and trying to practise,but I was thinking I have to take incentive first even if im OOP ,because I had top pair with high kicker and backdoor flushdraw and Im trying to maximum value my best hand (reading blackrain79 blog ,mby I understood wrong him)
After pot I was thinking he must have some ACE and since nl2 nobody folds Ace I was going to flat coz I was pretty sure I gonna take pot down
But yeah I frogot villians setmining opportunities and I was blinded for getting action with ACE
I think I rushed too fast, without thinking bad scenarios.

But you played very passively until the turn so you didn't take the incentive. Raise big pf, then bet pot on the flop when you hit. After the flop, raises from a 100bb starting stack often means better than top pair at the micro levels so then you can evaluate accordingly. Weak As don't normally raise.

It's very hard to assign ranges at micros because people hate to fold and will call pre and post flop very wide. But those ranges narrow considerably when people raise, especially postflop. The common mistake in both of your hands is calling off your stack with top pair or worse. Stop doing that.

I'm not sure this was a bad call vs a players jamming range. Dependent on a few things of course.

What range are you putting villain on to completely disregard a call?


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That chart tells you what equity you have based on your outs, which is half the equation. You also need to calculate the equity you need based on the pot odds. So you do the pot odds calculation first and then look to the chart to see if you have the right equity.

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You didn't play that hand badly at all, running TPTK into a set is an unfortunate and usually unavoidable part of poker. Besides, you picked up lots of equity on the turn.

The only thing you could do differently is 3b, as someone else suggested. This is the biggest change I've made to my game recently, playing a lot more aggressively (and generally raise/fold) out of the SB. In this hand a good 3b might cause villain to fold his 66. But it also might not, in which case the result will be exactly the same.

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