PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99 BB
SB: 83 BB (VPIP: 10.18, PFR: 4.42, 3Bet Preflop: 1.19, Hands: 230)
BB: 98 BB (VPIP: 17.83, PFR: 15.50, 3Bet Preflop: 1.79, Hands: 130)
UTG: 110.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG+1: 242.6 BB (VPIP: 13.29, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.99, Hands: 291)
MP: 181.6 BB (VPIP: 11.83, PFR: 10.75, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 98)
MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (MP+2): 186 BB
CO: 37.6 BB (VPIP: 47.37, PFR: 36.84, 3Bet Preflop: 71.43, Hands: 20)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) T 7 J
MP bets 4.2 BB, Hero calls 4.2 BB

Turn: (15.8 BB, 2 players) K
MP bets 10.4 BB, Hero calls 10.4 BB

River: (36.6 BB, 2 players) 8
MP bets 29.6 BB, fold

MP wins 35 BB

V is quite a NIT. On flop I am just calling with great IO to catch straight such deep.

Idk OTT, this seems like schizophrenic situation. I catched TPTK but I would be maybe more happy, when somethink else would turn around. I feel like this is not enough against that NIT and I should lay down, but I am calling.

OTR I am almost sure I am beaten and I just lay down => this is mistake, I should have made decision already OTT...

So what do you think guys?

12/11 over 98 hands does not mean "quite a nit". He might be a regular 14/12 TAG. I would 3bet preflop + i would raise this flop barelling almost any turn if he flats flop and checks turn.

i hate 3betting pre. villain is tighter than the average tag over this sample, and even vs a tag i'm just flatting AK vs the first 4 position opens. by just calling we dominate a large chunk of his opening range whereas i don't expect much dominated stuff at all to call if we raise.

so like the flat pre, now to postflop. flop i hate raising, there aren't too many hands in villain's opening range that missed this board texture so i think it's super spewy to raise.

turn i would still call just because although we are beat a decent % of the time we're still ahead of a chunk of his barrelling range like KQ, and pair + draw combos will often continue firing e.g. 99. river is easy fold on any card other than a queen (which gives us the nuts obv) because villain is just never firing three with just a pair on this texture.

overall well played

Exactly man. I would not say that better

The way to move up is to expand your thinking more than being a nit. We are 182BB deep preflop, how does that change the picture? What the preflop 3bet acomplishes for our range and how can we benefit from that? What does the suggested by me flop raise acomplishes and which turns are good to barell? On which rivers i would barell again if called turn (hint - they are more than the Q)?. This is not a debate, i just wanted to share something i struggled a lot with, i moved past NL10 not long ago, it was not until i realized how to not be weak tight. This play exploits exactly the standart nit tought process, the weak tight one which ends up breakeven. now before you argue take a look at your graph. See that blue line? It is probably going straight up, winning massively. Now look at the red one, crushing downhill. Mine is breakeven, that`s where the profits come from, it`s not a brag just try to look for another perspectives, that`s the way to move up. Good luck!

Well, firstly, my redline isnt crushing downhill. In fact its constant or a little bit going up. Dont judge based on one hand.

And to your reaction. I dont think that being aggresive is bad think, but timing is truly important too. In this particular situation, I just want stay in game with his wider range I can get money from. With raising I am just going to make him fold cards I am beating already and I want to extract mone from. I am IP and thats second important fact. So why not try make more EV+ play and just call? Against any other player more loose or stubborn and low "Fold to 3bet" I am going to raise, as you have suggested.

Maybe I am wrong. But thats just my opinion.

yea im with the OP here. some people just get into the habit of 3betting AK/QQ just because "i have AK i must 3bet" and this isn't a good reason. you have to look at the situation such as here we want villain to stick around with AQ and AJ but since he's fairly nitty and opened from 4th position we probably fold out those hands by 3betting. i suppose here we are deeper which gives us more incentive since villain MAY defend wider in deep stack pots, but it's definitely not a slam dunk 3bet.

i also expect the JT7 to have smacked pretty much every part of his range except some low pocket pairs which he won't even be cbetting. the fact that he also cbets a board like that makes me want to give him extra credit for having a strong range. here we just don't have enough going for us besides a gutshot, not even a backdoor flush draw. if the board was say 678 and we have JTs with a backdoor flush draw then i'd be far more inclined to raise, since that board misses his range quite a bit more and hits our perceived range hard.

as for the redline, having a downward trending redline isn't by any means a bad thing, i don't think you should make it your mission to have a breakeven or positive redline. a lot of the biggest crushers at micros have non-showdown winnings of around -6bb/100 and coaches have commented that as long as your blue line keeps going up you can forget about your redline to some degree. having a negative redline is definitely not "weak tight" lol

Well explained man. So what do you suggest? Just lay down OTF already?

with a backdoor flush draw to go with it i might peel but without i probably just let it go