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04-26-2015 , 07:19 PM
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 266.2 BB (VPIP: 15.58, PFR: 11.04, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 158)
SB: 112.6 BB (VPIP: 15.69, PFR: 9.61, 3Bet Preflop: 3.63, Hands: 467)
BB: 66.8 BB (VPIP: 8.73, PFR: 1.59, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 128)
Hero (UTG): 99 BB
UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.44, PFR: 10.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.92, Hands: 578)
MP: 101 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 10.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.43, Hands: 514)
MP+1: 111.4 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 23.21, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 113)
MP+2: 200.8 BB (VPIP: 23.13, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 8.06, Hands: 161)
CO: 469.8 BB (VPIP: 23.15, PFR: 17.59, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 109)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 4 BB, BTN calls 4 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (13.4 BB, 3 players) A 7 7
Hero bets 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB, fold

Turn: (33.4 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 23 BB, CO calls 23 BB

River: (79.4 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 62 BB and is all-in, CO calls 62 BB

1)
What do you think about my play? Was it correct or overplayed? I just see to many hands like AQ, AJs or even ATs that V wont fold. And not many hands like full or 9 trips. Why not get maximum from it.

2)
Now let say I bet about half pot OTR and V reraises me to all in? Can I fold here or not?
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04-28-2015 , 04:56 AM
First of all, why are you 4xing? Are you gonna 4x all your non-premiums as well? Asides from pre though I think it's well played. You're right they probably won't fold AQ/AJ (probably folding AT) and you're only really beat by 99/77. If you half pot river and get shoved on though just fold. Pot odds don't mean shiet if it's never a bluff and river raises are almost never a bluff at 5NL.
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04-28-2015 , 11:38 AM
I would not say all of them, but I am mixing it randomly. But most times just 3xing/ I dont want to be predictable. Or why are you asking? And in this particular hand I lost against T7s. But that was just bad luck, nothink else I suppose. Who could expect that somebody is going to call OR from UTG with 7x right..
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04-28-2015 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ambis03
I would not say all of them, but I am mixing it randomly. But most times just 3xing/ I dont want to be predictable. Or why are you asking? And in this particular hand I lost against T7s. But that was just bad luck, nothink else I suppose. Who could expect that somebody is going to call OR from UTG with 7x right..
What do you mean mixing it up randomly? Are you 4xing the bottom of your range too? I'm asking cause although you will be able to get away with it sometimes at 5NL, trying being inconsistent with your raise sizes higher up. You're gonna get punished bro. Even the two decent looking regs I see UTG+1 and MP in this hand can exploit you if they're paying attention and taking notes.

Anyways If CO is horrible enough to call an UTG 4x with T7s, he's horrible enough to call Any Ax AT or above so still well played. Note that he's horrible and adjust accordingly.
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04-28-2015 , 04:00 PM
I wouldn't worry about being predictable with your preflop play. Your image at the table won't factor into most players' decision. They are mostly just horrible players. If you mix up your play depending on the table and do so trying to get value then ok. But I wouldn't worry about being predictable.

I think the correct play on the river is to shove and betting anything less will only give them an opportunity to put you to a decision for all of your chips.
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04-30-2015 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ClemsonGrad09
I think the correct play on the river is to shove and betting anything less will only give them an opportunity to put you to a decision for all of your chips.
Idk, is this really right attitude? This is like avoiding tough decisions but simultaneusly paying V maximum, when he is better.

Is price for mistake possibility (decision whether to call his shove raise OTR) really so high?

Im not sure wheter I am giving right questions. My english isnt perfect.
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04-30-2015 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ambis03
Idk, is this really right attitude? This is like avoiding tough decisions but simultaneusly paying V maximum, when he is better.

Is price for mistake possibility (decision whether to call his shove raise OTR) really so high?

Im not sure wheter I am giving right questions. My english isnt perfect.
I think checking river to call a bet is completely reasonable. You lose some value to Ax, but you might gain that back with bluffs .

You are right though that is bad thinking to make a play to avoid tricky spots, most of the time.
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04-30-2015 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
I think checking river to call a bet is completely reasonable. You lose some value to Ax, but you might gain that back with bluffs.
I don't see villain arriving at river with any bluffs.
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04-30-2015 , 09:59 AM
Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. I'm not suggesting to shove just to avoid a tricky situation. By betting we have two ways to win: 1.) We have the best hand and win at showdown, 2.) We win the pot when he folds. If you bet 1/2 pot and he shoves, are we calling? Yes because we'd be getting close to 9:1 on our money. So we should shove to put him in a tricky situation and hopefully he makes a bad call here. We hit with our AK, we have a good hand, get as much value as you can.

What are we afraid of here? A9 or 99 beats us (probably raises the turn). A7 or any 7 (these probably raise flop). A fish will probably call 3 barrels with a weaker ace (AQ-AT). There's no straights or flushes possible. We should win enough in this spot to make shoving the right play.
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04-30-2015 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AimHigher
I don't see villain arriving at river with any bluffs.
Would betting AJ in this situation be a bluff?
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04-30-2015 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
First of all, why are you 4xing? Are you gonna 4x all your non-premiums as well? Asides from pre though I think it's well played. You're right they probably won't fold AQ/AJ (probably folding AT) and you're only really beat by 99/77. If you half pot river and get shoved on though just fold. Pot odds don't mean shiet if it's never a bluff and river raises are almost never a bluff at 5NL.
This.
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
What do you mean mixing it up randomly? Are you 4xing the bottom of your range too? I'm asking cause although you will be able to get away with it sometimes at 5NL, trying being inconsistent with your raise sizes higher up. You're gonna get punished bro. Even the two decent looking regs I see UTG+1 and MP in this hand can exploit you if they're paying attention and taking notes.

Anyways If CO is horrible enough to call an UTG 4x with T7s, he's horrible enough to call Any Ax AT or above so still well played. Note that he's horrible and adjust accordingly.
And this. Whenever I see a hand of interest that goes to showdown the first thing I note is PF betsizing - especially if they size it bigger or smaller depending on hand strength and position.

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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
Would betting AJ in this situation be a bluff?
Probably not from villain's perspective no. At the same time though I'm not sure if they would bet river or just check back with AJ. It's a pretty dry board and we 4xed pre and double barreled...
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05-01-2015 , 05:14 AM
I think his IP call was not bad idea. From time to time there are many players who are easy to float. They have nitt ranges and OTT is heavy to play OOP for them... In situation like this is really nice benefit from hitting trips on the flop. Only AA is beating you and utg has great sizing only for calling and shove river.
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