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03-11-2017 , 09:05 AM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $6.20 (124 bb)
BB: $3.30 (66 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $6.18 (123.6 bb)
CO: $5.16 (103.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
UTG raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 8 9 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.51, UTG calls $0.51

Turn: ($2.07) K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.99, UTG calls $0.99

River: ($4.05) Q (2 players)
[color="red"]Hero ???

Can we value bet? TJs got there 89s 88 99 and QQ beat us we beat AK?And if we check should we check/call?Maybe V would turn JJ into the bluff so checking is better?
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03-11-2017 , 09:30 AM
I can't imagine too many 5NL players turning JJ into a bluff in this spot. I don't really like x/c here because there aren't too many bluffs in his range and if he bets the river you're likely behind. Maybe a blocker bet would be best, try and get some thin value from AQ/JJ and fold to any raise.
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03-11-2017 , 09:39 AM
I actually think jamming entire range is good
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03-11-2017 , 11:10 AM
Value betting I don't think you ever get called by worse unless KJ floats flop. YOu block the hands you are targeting

I'd just x/f river anything larger than half pot. Draws picked up showdown value with Qss, I don't think JJ TT bluff river. Maybe ATss/AJss turn into bluff but that's it
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03-11-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by El_Russo1
I actually think jamming entire range is good
Why do you think this?

I think you could argue checking entire range but jamming entire range you'd just have way too many bluffs vs a strong UTG range

UTG caller has 9 set combos maybe 4 two pair combos, 4 straight combos and the rest we are ahead of would just fold to a bet or check behind on river

Reasonably we could only value bet 3 KK combos, even 2 KQ combos would be thin
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03-11-2017 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hyfdbb
Why do you think this?
Turn I reckon he's going to be raising so much of his strong hands + gut shot spade draws that by the river he's actually got a relatively weak range
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03-11-2017 , 04:22 PM
what do you guys think about a block bet in this spot?
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03-11-2017 , 08:59 PM
If we're betting, are we ever not shoving river with ~60bb behind? Bet/folding with an spr <1 doesn't seem like a good option to me.

I think it's a little thin given ranges. I think we can safely x/f without reads. Think it's doubtful an average 5nl reg is bluffing AsJs/JJ. fwiw though I also think it's doubtful villain would defend 98s/JTs preflop.
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03-11-2017 , 10:30 PM
I think we should shove QQ KK and JTs as well as some AXs bluffs here, then x/f the rest of our range.

In terms of balance this is exploitable but I don't think people at this stake bluffs enough for us to worry about that
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03-12-2017 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
If we're betting, are we ever not shoving river with ~60bb behind? Bet/folding with an spr <1 doesn't seem like a good option to me.

I think it's a little thin given ranges. I think we can safely x/f without reads. Think it's doubtful an average 5nl reg is bluffing AsJs/JJ. fwiw though I also think it's doubtful villain would defend 98s/JTs preflop.
Everything is good except the bold. I think those are pretty standard defends from anyone.
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03-12-2017 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Everything is good except the bold. I think those are pretty standard defends from anyone.
5nl is more full of bad nitregs than any other stake.
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