4tabling, do you fold river?

Yes, personally, river is a fold for me. What does hero beat that would take this line? The The board is very connected with many combos of two pair, sets, straights, and full houses. Also, with no front door FD, it makes it even less likely that he is bluffing. I think it's a good river fold.

Any reads on V? Personally I'm just shoving river. What are we really worried about here? 2 combos of A9s, 89s, 79s, J9s, one combo of J9s, 1 combo of KJhh, 3 of QQ and TT and the way the hand the played out he shouldn't have any of those 100% of the time.

True that V might not be representing many combos, but there aren't a lot of combos that he would do this with that we beat. Probably only KK (6 combos). I don't think he'd take this line with PPs less than TP like JJ or 88. And we lose to QQ, TT. So I don't think V is doing this with hands that AA can beat imho.

Tens would fold turn almost always since hero bet flop bet turn, so he's polarized to queens full, fours full, trips, nines full, or busted draws like Kh10h or Jh10h and Ah10h/AhJh that floated flop (the first two hands have good backdoor equity, AhJh could call because it could even be the best hand some of the time vs. a light 3bet with A5s that you could sometimes have.)

Trips nines/nines full of queens or tens, fours full are all possibilities. Slowplay flop, but turn may give you Queens full, then when you check river, they realize it's no longer part of your range. He could realize you actually have more AA and KK combos than AK since only AhKh plays like your line so he could correctly shove for max value.

On the other hand, think about how many hands he could float with like QdJd/AdQd/KdQd or QsJd/AsQs/KsQs that ended up turning TP, and realize on the river it's no good (again because now you can't have AhKh.)

It's a 3bet pot, sometimes a river check will induce a play like this. There's so much money in the middle that someone will make a very intelligent desperation play to put you in a tough spot. Players often have a feel that top pair is usually not good in this spot; in a single-raised pot, they'd be happy to check it down and lose or win the pot that way, but with all that money out there, they are motivated to take the pot away. I say call.

I don't like your bet sizing. First, betting less than half pot may tempt villain to call wider, which makes it harder to put villain on a range and gives him a chance to hit something. Second, it looks weak and can entice a raise or a big river move like this one. Third, you're not getting full value from the pairs in his range.

As for the river decision, it could really go either way. I'm not usually prepared to call off my stack with a pair when I have no idea where I stand. I know AA looks pretty but all you have is a pair.

Played well, bad river, you lost the minimum.
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jam > x/f > x/c imo

No

Yes

k9 AND q9s aswell i'd say

This pretty much articulates everything that I intuitively feel in a situation like this. I think the intelligent desperation play is very on point too. There's room for draws to float and after two bets up hill to a check on the river there's good reason to believe (and desperation to want to bet) that a bet on the river here is good.

I'd probably call it because I'm an idiot but I think you probably did well to not call it. I'm interested to see why people here think he should have shoved river, doesn't this board hit MP way better than HERO UTG?