50nl Zoom set facing river shove vs polarized range - Micro Stakes Full Ring Games

fourflush1989 · 06-12-2012, 03:26 PM

villain is 27/17 over 84 hands so no reads really,

i can say he called the turn fairly quickly even with another player to act and didnt really consider raising, i think hes raising QJ on the turn unless its QJcc, thoughts on the river? i kind of felt he wudnt call that be tont he turn with Aq given the action...

Thoughts on the riveR??

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13203091

BTN: $20.51 (41 bb)
SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $179.02 (358 bb)
UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $57 (114 bb)
Hero (MP1): $72.87 (145.7 bb)
MP2: $51.63 (103.3 bb)
MP3: $57.01 (114 bb)
CO: $50.99 (102 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T

T

UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, CO calls $2.25, 2 folds, BB calls $1.75, UTG+2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 3

A

T

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.30, CO calls $4.30, BB calls $4.30

Turn: ($20.40) K

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13.50, CO calls $13.50, BB folds

River: ($47.40) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $30.94 and is all-in, Hero calls $30.94

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MartL · 06-12-2012, 04:14 PM

Man alive, bet more on the flop and turn.

Bout $6.50 on the flop and $23-24 on the turn makes the river a no brainer what ever card comes down.

PeoplesElbow · 06-12-2012, 04:16 PM

flop should of been like $6.

which would of made turn like $25 bucks. Turn should of been like $22 which would mean snap shove any river.

I dont think there turning 2pair/TP into bluffs here, think were beaten often enough.

edit:haha we think a like MartL, you are a cheek kunt mate i swear

MartL · 06-12-2012, 05:31 PM

Grat minds think alike or fools rarely differ lol.

fourflush1989 · 06-13-2012, 05:50 AM

ok arnt we scaring away alot of our action with those bet sizes??

def agree betting bigger but isnt like 5.25 ish on the flop better an like 15-18 on the turn?

blame_hofmann · 06-13-2012, 06:34 AM

Questions to Mart & PE: do you cbet this flop with QK? Or 88? If so would you be betting close to pot? If the CO was a 16/13 reg rather than a 27/17 likely recreational player, does that change your cbetting range and/or sizing?

baohoa · 06-13-2012, 06:56 AM

just slightly larger otf and ott.
i don't like cc otr tbh. it is either a shove for value vs. 2p type of hands (esp vs. a 27/17 who could easily be some type of fish) or a cf. not a spot where u make a lot of money, but we risk him checking behind hands like AKcc, AJcc

fourflush1989 · 06-13-2012, 09:35 AM

yeh i agree, i ended up calling FWIW and he had KJcc

XIAODD8 · 06-13-2012, 10:57 AM

Always check fold, unless villain is very very agg

MartL · 06-13-2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fourflush1989

ok arnt we scaring away alot of our action with those bet sizes??

Not really, we have an Ace high, 2 to a flush and is also straightening so its got a good chance of hitting their ranges.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blame_hofmann

Questions to Mart & PE: do you cbet this flop with QK? Or 88? If so would you be betting close to pot? If the CO was a 16/13 reg rather than a 27/17 likely recreational player, does that change your cbetting range and/or sizing?

I wouldnt cbet 88 or KQ(unless it was suited clubs) here, board is too wet imo to get enough folds to make a bet profitable.

If the CO was a Tag then hes going to be playing pretty face up on this type of flop especially with someone to act after him. If i had the same hand as OP and the Villain was a Tag im still betting flop and turn big for the same reasons as above.