It's about that time for everyone's favorite game...THE RANGE GAME!!!

This is 50NL RUSH.

CO = unknown
HERO = unknown
CB = unknown

I am going to do this one a little differently. And show street by street rather than all at once

What are you putting CO on?
What are you putting HERO on?
What are you putting SB on?


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CO: $118.35
Hero (BTN): $67.00
SB: $55.50
BB: $57.30
UTG: $108.30
UTG+1: $31.35
UTG+2: $99.45
MP1: $52.30
MP2: $70.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with ::X:: ::X::
5 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $4.25, 1 fold, CO calls $3

btn is obv a donk so he could have anything really.

CO: 22+,A2s+,K9s+,Q8s+, 65s+, 86s+, any 2 broadway
Hero: 99+, A2s+, K2s-KJs <= may be wider if split is hero -_-

Ok, so we have three ranges to figure out here.. I'll throw out my sh**ty assessment.

CO: Opens, gets re-popped, calls even with a cold caller in there. Lets assume he's not terribad and remove what he likely doesn't have. AK might flat there but AK would either be a 4b or fold in his spot. AK is possible, but not likely. AA and KK would have likely 4b here to avoid MW pot. Most trashier hands are folding here as well.

CO Range: 22-QQ, AJ-AK, some SC in there. I would weight his range more toward 77-QQ.

HERO (BTN): Like I said.. OBVVVV a donk and likely 3b very wide here. 22+ Ax+ some SC and suited one or two gappers, possibly even some KT+ in there as well.

BTN Range: 22+, Ax+, SC, s00ted 1/2 gappers.

SB: Cold called. Interesting because assuming he's not terribad, AK is likely to 4b here with a CO open and BTN raise. I don't think AK is in his range or AQ/AJ. AA-QQ would probably get a 4b in there as well.

SB Range: 77-TT maybe JJ.

Now abuse me and tell me how horrible I did. LOL

CO has a much wider range in my db than I would have thought. Broadway connectors (suited or unsuited), 88-QQ.

SB is narrower, 88-AA (yeah, calling AA to trap), AK, maybe KQ.

Hero's playing almost ATC, reveling in the opportunity to make a position play as an "unknown".

and don't forget...we have depth! which makes me want to 3b IP even more =)


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CO: $118.35
Hero (BTN): $67.00
SB: $55.50
BB: $57.30
UTG: $108.30
UTG+1: $31.35
UTG+2: $99.45
MP1: $52.30
MP2: $70.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with ::X:: ::X::
5 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $4.25, 1 fold, CO calls $3

Flop: ($14.00) K 2 Q (3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $8.15, SB calls $8.15, CO folds

IMO your range did not get any narrower on the flop. Maybe rule out JJ but I dunno if you 3b that, maybe because it's rush? But still, you probably bet air as well as AK/KK/QQ/AA on this board. It's the kind of flop that definitely hits your percieved range a lot more than theirs.

Hero pre: Split = ATC
Hero flop: Still has ATC in his range, since SB's range was 22-JJ, AK a c-bet should be successfull, although I don't want to play AK OOP. SB not as good as me.

SB pre: 22-JJ, its rush, no need to get fancy with QQ+ here, so they're out. AK maybe
SB flop: Just dropped out 33-JJ, so I have SB on AK or 22. I hope we can beat both of those

Man I suck. Fun game though!

this is reallllly difficult without reads, but i will give it a shot.

ok so CO opened, what does that tell us...well not much of anything since he is an unknown. assuming he is a positionally aware reg, his range looks something like 22+, T9o+ K9+ A2s+ A7o+ and 89s+ (thats like 26%, could be higher or lower depending on how loose/tight he is)

hero 3bets, prob really wide, now if he is 3betting a polar range it is prob like JJ+, AK and a bunch of SCs and weak suited aces and some weak suited kings. if he 3bets a wider value range, it might look something like AJs+, AQo+, 99+

once SB flats it gets weird, like who cold calls a 3bet OOP not even closing the action, he is prob a bit fishy...if he is fishy he is doing this with like 22+ because fish dont fold PPs preflop and like AJ+ KQ+ (this is under the assumption that he sucks) that or he is slowplaying like KK+ here but meh, unlikely.

when CO flats it is likely some kind of mid PP like 99-QQ that doesnt want to 4bet but likes the odds he is getting with the SB in the middle, so lets say 99-QQ, AK (i think he mostly 4bets KK+ especially since it is rush, so KK+ is pretty unlikely, but possible.

ok so ill assume hero 3bets polar here since villains are unknown and it makes things easier.

we go to the flop like this

CO: 99-QQ, AK

Hero: JJ+ AK, a bunch of random SCs, random Axs and Kxs hands, maybe some weak PPs if hero likes to 3bet those (personal preference i think)

SB: 22+, AJ+, KQ+ also with a possibility he is slowplaying KK+ but we cant know that

look anywhere near accurate?

on the flop we forget about CO since he folded.

Hero Cbets all his crappy air hands here, prob checks back JJ and Cbets QQ+ AK

soo heros range on the flop looks like QQ+, AK and all his air (still assuming a polar range preflop)

SB check/calls, im thinking he is fishy more and more. i think he folds all the weakest PPs that called pre, MIGHT stick around with TT-JJ, AJ(gutshot yo) AQ-AK....KQ(maybe leads or c/r this)

Should I assume Hero understands the implication to ranges by the advent of Rush or not?

I would hope so, yes =)

Initial open - CO - 22+, A2s+, A6o+, K9s+, KTo+, QTs+, QJo, JTs+ + lots of other SC's

BTN - 88+, ATs+, AJo+, KQs + other SC's

SB - 22-QQ, AK

CO call - 22-JJ, AJs+, AQo+

FLOP -

BTN - QQ+, AJs+, AQo+, KQs, JTs

SB - 22, QQ, AK

dont think it really works like this. if any of these players are fish it changes the hand completely, As hero I think I would be pot controlling my entire range here on this flop given SB's strong call so I think hero is super super polarized-- so given his really tiny bet into 3 people I think he has AA+ or a total bluff. CO's range is wide enough pre and folds the flop so I dont think it matters, and SBs range is completely undefined -- any non-drooler has like AQ+/JJ+ here, and I don't think anyone folds JJ to one bet and anything else is a monster or a pair and without reads we cant assume he is going to fast/slowplay anything. I think betting the flop for value with anything less then AA is pretty poor on heroes part given that the only worse hand thats calling 3 streets is AK-- so a majority of heroes range for betting flop is going to be sets or AA, and any of these hands probably arent folding except maybe AA (given that we have AA it makes AQ/AK[hands that call us with worse] much more unlikely, so even if there are more hands we beat combinitoricly we arent doing much better). We gain no information by betting flop with anything so by betting this flop we are polarizing to a range that is strong enough to stack off with no info or a total bluff -- so it really doesnt matter what sbs range is.

Heros range should be weighted towards value and Highcard value because ranges should on average be stronger.
Which means we should be inclined to more high card strength because HU posts will be much more likely than MW pots.

So if I believe that Hero has correctly adjusted to Rush.
Then he will have a wider incremental 3-bet range and of the times he is 3-bet bluffing it will be Ax Kx suited rather than SC.
But I would discount 3-bet bluffing abit but I do not know Heros play too much.