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2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish 2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish

05-10-2017 , 09:50 AM
Is the hand played correctly?
Alternatively, 4 bet preflop and CB & 3bet allin on the flop.

Players stats:
CO: VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 1,6, Hands: 164
BTN: VPIP: 58, PFR: 34, 3B: 21, AF: 2,9, Hands: 96
Hero (SB): VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 2,0

    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37722477

    MP1: $0.57 (28.5 bb)
    MP2: $1.90 (95 bb)
    MP3: $1.98 (99 bb)
    CO: $2.98 (149 bb)
    BTN: $5.71 (285.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): $2.76 (138 bb)
    BB: $2 (100 bb)
    UTG+2: $3.44 (172 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
    UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.07, BTN raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.11, 2 folds, CO calls $0.05

    Flop: ($0.40) 5 J Q (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.44, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.64, BTN calls $1.74

    Turn: ($5.68) K (2 players)
    River: ($5.68) 6 (2 players)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $5.68 pot ($0.20 rake)
    Final Board: 5 J Q K 6
    CO mucked and lost (-$0.12 net)
    BTN showed Q A and won $5.48 ($2.72 net)
    Hero showed Q A and lost (-$2.76 net)



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    2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish Quote
    05-10-2017 , 10:31 AM
    4 bet pre!!!

    As plyed c/c, c/c /c/c

    If c/c and flop king on turn spikes out with all the flushes c/f.

    Massive overplay postflop as played.
    2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish Quote
    05-10-2017 , 10:45 AM
    Yeah, I 4b pre because BTN is a lag who 3-bets frequently and you don't really want to play AQ multiway OOP.

    As played I like the flop raise to isolate the lag but I don't like the shove after he 3-bets. I don't think he's getting it in with many hands you beat, and you don't want to fold out the weaker part of his range.

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    2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish Quote
    05-10-2017 , 10:56 AM
    for 100bb i agree with the flop raise and get it in as played.
    150bb we have more room and shurly not get it in on flop. the hand plays like it is aq oop multiway 3bet pot 3 handed not strong enough....
    2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish Quote
    05-10-2017 , 11:00 AM
    Check raising the flop and committing your stack is a dangerous move because you're essentially turning your hand into a bluff. You either want worse hands to call you or better hands to fold, but when you play your hand like that, only better hands will be calling you.

    Your hand is strong enough to not be turned into a bluff here since you have top pair and top kicker, so you want to just check call in these spots. Once the villain keeps betting, you will want to find a fold either on the turn or river.
    2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish Quote
    05-10-2017 , 04:16 PM
    4b pre is good, as played is good too but 3bet flop bigger, maybe like 60c+.
    2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish Quote
    05-13-2017 , 09:53 AM
    Thanks to all!
    2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish Quote
    05-17-2017 , 03:24 PM
    I don't really like the idea of the 4 bet pre. That is a good move against players who will make moves with a wide range, but have a fold button when you push back.

    The impression of villain seems to be a bit more maniac, and AQ unsuited out of position may be ahead, but most of the time will be facing post flop aggression without a pair or good draw and out of position.

    If you're going to play AQ more aggressively due to the wide range, better to do it in a smaller pot I think.


    And by that same logic, I don't like the raise on the flop either, and especially not that size. The only reason to raise is to set a bad price for a flush draw, and to isolate. But this raise gave both players good odds to chase.

    You have a good but not great showdown hand, and villain only bet half pot. I like X/C on the flop. The turn will still be tricky, with a very aggressive guy betting the overcard and flush card. Those two hands and that board, you will always lose a significant amount against such a player. But if villain keeps going half pot, you might get to look him up at a much lower price than full stack.

    As played, you assumed bad player means bad hand, lets get it all in there. Which gives villain ample opportunity to fold out all his bluffs and weak hands. You are left with hands you tie, hands which are ahead, and profitable odds for flush draws.
    2NL AQo in SB, preflop & flop decisions vs agrofish Quote

          
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