Villain is 7/5/10 for 140 hands

Should have bet pot on flop i think.

Should I four bet flop? Villain is so aggro and nitty I do not know what to think of his flop 3 bet.

I believe I am way ahead or way behind, not sure if I should 4 bet or call to pot control and try to get to river for cheap.

so hard oop

start by checking and then fold. fold flop. he is not aggro in the slightest. agg factor is a most retarded way to determine if a guy's aggro or not. get rid of it. he can easily fold every time he doesn't hit a set and raise every time he gets one and have an infinite af and that's probably what this guy's doing.

hhhmm... that makes sense. what do you use to determine ones aggressiveness? is AF really useless? what about frequency?

freq is better but again it's all about his range. it's going to be strong. personally, i've done without any agg stat for the past 3 years. instead i think of range, how often he c/r's, cbets, barrels, etc. but agg stats are garbage imo

Is standart to open 4x at zoom?

Besides, I would fold flop vs this player.

Clear value bet on the flop. As soon as this guy raises its a snap fold though.

I think you just have to B/F the flop. I've seen a lot of very unreliable small samples (<200 hands) in Zoom, where guys who seem super nitty show up with hands that should be nowhere near their range; but we can only go on the info we have.

I think AF can be a useful stat. It identifies passive players very quickly (although so does AFq). It's trickier with players it identifies as aggressive, and I'd look at AFq too. Other more specific stats are indeed more useful - but unless you play hundreds of thousands of hands at the same limit in a fairly short space of time, you're never going to get meaningful samples in the more detailed stats; and even then it'll only be on the hardest-working regs.

Which is why we use the core stats of VPIP/PFR/AF, and extrapolate player types and behaviours from this information when we're dealing with small samples.

Absolutely this, anything else is absurd.

lol@ c/f flop

i like the word "aggronit". it makes me wonder if they really think "now i am going to play my AA aggressively" OR "now i am going to play my set aggressively".

i meant c/f on the turn. was answering his ? then giving other advice. i'm pretty dumb with the english sometimes.

i would def. bet for value since he's prob going to call w/JJ and TT.

I agree that agg stats should be interpreted in conjunction with their range, i don't think this makes them useless though.

For me what it means in this situation is he likes to bet and raise more than he likes to call.

So we can expect him to fast play his sets/other big hands.

If he was 7/5/0.5 for example then we know he likes to call more than bet/raise, so when he raises it's even more likely he's got the nuts, but with this player we should also be worried about the nuts / near nuts if he flats.

What I'm having trouble with is in this specific hand his af is 10.0 Does that mean that he is betting/raising all his made hands and folding others, or can it mean that he is betting/raising his made hands but also bet/raising as a bluff a lot? Perhaps it doesnt really mean either, which i think was .isos point.

it doesn't give you a clear view of how somebody's playing. with this guy specifically he's only calling 2% of hands so he can easily be flatting KK/AA in lp to ep raises and play them fast plus call only pps and raise when he hits and fold when he doesn't. a lot of his aggression is going to be his cbetting and double barreling because his range is so f'n tight pre. basically, af relates directly to the gap in vpip/pfr, cb, fold to cb, fold to barrels, barreling, etc.. so if you want to use af you have to take other stats into account and not just say his af is "x" so he's aggro or passive.

7/5 nit here likely has us crushed - He has every set in his range so I b/f the flop (Were getting value from TT, JJ, AQ, KQ (rare)). It would be fine to assume that this nit wont get out of line much post flop by bluff raising. Draws will be rare too (AKhh being the only thing I could imagine villian flatting pre with)