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Old 06-27-2012, 07:30 PM   #16
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Re: [25NL] Facing a river donk shove

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flop and turn both bigger


^ what he said, especially needing a cheat sheet to help with the math in this spot
Cheat sheet is staying . Of course converting 3-1 to 25% is trivial (100 / (3+1)), however, when you are being offered pot odds of 2.3-1 (3/4 psb), its going to be a little more confusing to do the manual conversion... untill it finally clicks that 100/3.3 is 30%, give or take.

At this point, however, you have just been stuck in a spot on 3 other differnt tables.

I'd rather have my attention placed upon v. range.

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sb has the flush alot of the time i reckon.
if he had the Q, he's raising you on the turn. He's been calling on a draw.
Make a crying call, but expect to see the flush. Kx. King low. would hate to see K5s, K6s
You think, given the fact V. looks normal, he flats an EP open OOP with Kxss?

If he does that, then he is doing it with all sorts of Qx - which can very easily get to the river without neededing to raise the turn - Especially since a 50bb villian aint going to be scared of that FD.

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ps i can't stand tables full of short stackers
I quite like these tables - Bad short stackers are amusingly easy to beat.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:41 PM   #17
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Re: [25NL] Facing a river donk shove

i think you're making the maths too hard for yourself.
some examples
villain bets $7 into $9, you have to call $7 into $23, 7/23 is about 30%
villain bets $40 into $55, you have to call $40 into $135, is about 30%
guess what i'm saying is that you're always about 30%, so throw away the sheet
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:07 PM   #18
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Re: [25NL] Facing a river donk shove

Yeah the problem with short stackers is that they often go all-in on the flop/turn, so you really have little chance of them folding when they see a flop.

I play small-ball and rely on smaller bets and them folding.

Yeah it's hard to really give an understanding without too many ready on the villian.
I really feel we are chopping or losing this hand. Put the villian on the nuts and work back. Does it make sense if he's drawing to the nuts? Well yes to all streets. Don't raise the flop or turn, just call. Rivered the nuts, lets push and hope he has the straight.

When faced with an all-in on the river, i put the villian on the nuts and work back.
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