Villian: Had no real history between us at the time. His stats: 24/18 over about 100 hands. Looked somewhat normal though a little loose and passive... Add in the half stack, he is shaping up to be a very bad "reg". No indication that villian will get out of line...

Pre: Fine

Flop, betting for value - not exactly the most amazing flop, but I do think there is tones of hands that can call

Turn - Gin.

River - Guy pretty much snap donks in to me. Not delighted after the flush fills up, but how many flushes can he really have?? KTss is about all he could have - and that to me seems a very loose defend. As I have said, I dont expect him to be p*ssing about much.

So, do we call and expect the chop but hope for the occasional river spazz (I dont imagine he would be bluffing much - he is somewhat passive) or awfully played set? Or do we just assume that the Ch/C, Ch/C, donk line from a fish (especially after a draw fills) is exactly what it is - The nuts...

(By my maths, he (almost) 1/2 pots the river giving me 3-1 so I need 25% (A little more) to be correct in calling - I swear by my "cheat sheet", but Ive never really checked its correctness)

I'm not flaming you here but with 1.5k posts I would really expect you to know your pot odds pretty well without a 'cheat sheet'...but anyway I'm not folding the river here ever, I think it's a chop more often than a flush.

Haha.

In the recent past I have been playing zoom / 8+ tables of 6 max so never really had the time to sit there and work out the pot odds, and convert to required equity - I can do it, just not quickly enough and before another table pops up - Hence the little sheet I use at any time I need too.

Chop 50, win 15, lose 35, so I am calling with the pot odds. However, there are a lot of k combos with two spades that this type of villain can show up with from the blinds. This type of villain rarely folds a combo with 2nd pair and a 2nd nut flush draw until it misses. I would not be shocked when he shows up with k3 or k7 spades.

*bumping for more opinions*



I agree with above that V. could have some kxs hands here... but it is insanly loose to defend with k3ss and given his stats, i wouldnt expect him to ever turn up with it.

More on the turn and then I'm not folding.

This.

Plus only real logical hand he could have here that beats us is KTss. Dont ever see him defending with worse than that I guess.

yea call so hard for him to have a flush here

Do we really need to bet the turn bigger given the fact the $3.50 bet sets up a very simple 1/2 shove?

But we all know the pure lack of logic from some of our microstake donks...

That was my thought - I ended up snapping it off OTR hoping he spazzed with some 2 pair, Qx, air...

Still calling even after seeing the results take notes. Stack him next time. He defends and chases with horrendous hands. Surely can't be a winning player.

flop and turn both bigger

^ what he said, especially needing a cheat sheet to help with the math in this spot

sb has the flush alot of the time i reckon.
if he had the Q, he's raising you on the turn. He's been calling on a draw.
Make a crying call, but expect to see the flush. Kx. King low. would hate to see K5s, K6s

ps i can't stand tables full of short stackers

More on the turn (back when we had the nuts) makes the river decision more trivial

I honestly dont get why we wanna bet bigger on the flop and also turn. On this board against a 50bb stack there are really not that many runouts where I can find a fold with that hand especially against an aggressive opponent. He will most likely 3bet AA/KK/AK and maybe even AJ/JJ sometimes and we have a gutter and a backdoor flushdraw...plus us having the flush queen makes him less likely to get a flush and we also have a redraw when a spade hits the turn (mentioned the BDFD already). If anything I would even bet a little less like 1.4 on the flop and 3 on the turn. There is a chance that this might even make him wanna bluff c/r turn with a hand like JT or KJ or AT to get us off AK/AJ. I mean...not a huge difference IMO but I definitely dont get the betting bigger part...the non drawing part of his range (especially Ax) is way bigger than the flush draw type of hands and by betting maybe 4 or 4.2 into 5.25 we make him fold a lot and last time I checked we are trying to get calls in that spot.
As played I think its a clear call without reads given the odds but another advantage of betting a little less on the flop and turn is that with the pot maybe only being 11 or 10.5 and villain donking 9 bucks into us on that river I can find a fold more often.